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What Would Colleges be Like If SATs Were the SOLE Admission Criterion?
American Thinker ^ | 07/10/2019 | Peter Skurkiss

Posted on 07/10/2019 9:10:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Many bar and dorm room conversations probably have centered on what colleges would look like if SAT scores were the sole criteria for admission. People have had their suspicions and cite anecdotal observations but now Georgetown University has quantitatively answered the question as least as far as elite universities go.

Anyone with a passing awareness of today's college admission policies knows that the student makeup would change if academics were the sole criteria. How much they would change is the question. As to whether using just SAT scores -- i.e. academic performance -- is good or bad is another matter.

Back to the Georgetown report.

Healy Hall at Georgetown University (photo credit: Gtwonsfs)

It claims the percentage of blacks and Hispanics would fall sharply from 19 percent to 11 percent. The whites student population would rise from 66 percent to 77 percent.  And surprisingly, Asian students would fall from 11 percent to 10 percent. The study goes on to say that many of the whites in these select college would lose their seats to other better qualified white students.  

 In other words, the student mix would change noticeably.

There are a number of reasons why higher academically performing students lose seats to others. There are legacy admissions and sport scholarships. Both these skew the college population downward on the academic scale especially when it comes to big money-making sports like football and basketball. However, the greatest factor is a commitment to racial diversity. College administrators will literally go to any length the prove they are 'woke.'

Zero Hedge noted that black and Latino college enrolment is almost twice what it would be based on "merit" alone. And this is before the College Board introduces its so-called "adversity score," which is specifically designed to increase the minority presence in universities,

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: admission; college; sat
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1 posted on 07/10/2019 9:10:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What Would Colleges be Like If Only STEM Students Could Receive Federal Loan Assistance?


2 posted on 07/10/2019 9:11:43 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What would colleges be like if SATs were the sole admission criterion?

For starters, I would not have any education higher than high school, instead of a Master’s degree and two bachelors’. I’d either be working, unloading trucks at Wal-Mart, or flipping burgers.

Thankfully, in my case, they looked at a great many other things BEYOND SAT scores.


3 posted on 07/10/2019 9:14:03 AM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: BenLurkin
What Would Colleges be Like If Only STEM Students Could Receive Federal Loan Assistance?

Possibly useful again?

4 posted on 07/10/2019 9:15:23 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys apects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A: Megan McCain, Chelsea Clinton and Amy Schumer wouldn’t have graduated from High School.
There is only so much Stupid that can be fixed.


5 posted on 07/10/2019 9:17:09 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: SeekAndFind

I propose a free university

But not the Bernie or Warren way

One based solely on academics and aptitude. Skin color, “gender”, income, parent’s income, etc are not requirements and will not even be asked of the applicant.

Only the best of the best is allowed to attend, free of course.

The college is funded by donations from corporate and private estates/grants, and alumni

Every graduate of this ultra elite school would be encourage to donate, when they are able to, to help the next generation of graduates to attend for free as well.

That is how “free” college should work. It should be earned.


6 posted on 07/10/2019 9:18:02 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: BenLurkin

Before you did that the H-1B visa would have to end.


7 posted on 07/10/2019 9:19:35 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

The San Francisco Philharmonic orchestra used to do their auditions with the person playing behind curtain so looks had nothing to do with the section. Someone sued of course and now that practice ended a long time ago.


8 posted on 07/10/2019 9:22:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Depends on how you look at it I suppose. I didn’t get great scores on the SAT, ACT or the GRE, but have a 3.9 in my graduate school and am funded by the state because of my work ethic. As far as I’m concerned, in my experience the men and women I’ve worked with that tout high SAT or ACT scores are rather.... Plain.


9 posted on 07/10/2019 9:26:30 AM PDT by George Rand (-- I can't befriend liberals because I won't befriend ignorance --)
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...What Would Colleges be Like If Only STEM Students Could Receive Federal Loan Assistance?

Add business degrees, they are useful
Also Training for trades
(Plumbing, Carpentry, Mechanics, Farming...)

Dance, Gender studies, similar low ROI degrees, not so much


10 posted on 07/10/2019 9:26:55 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: SeekAndFind
I think an interesting thought experiment is to wonder what America would look like today if the GI Bill hadn't gotten millions of men who served in WW2 and Korea into college when they had no hope of it prior to the bill. These were not people who wanted to study basket weaving and gender studies, they wanted to learn marketable skills. Business, engineering, etc. That generation ushered in a serious technology boom from the 50s to, say, 1990 (30 years after the Korean war vets graduated). Not all of them were GIs, of course, but a lot were.

Now that we have that image in our minds, what will America look like in 50 years after the current crop of college students have overseen our future that far?

11 posted on 07/10/2019 9:31:05 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Liberal programming of smarter kids.
More people doing brain dumps and crash courses on how to manipulate the SAT for higher scores. Mommy paying for tutors and test prep courses. (Varsity Blues)
Add a dose of Mostly Asian and White kids and a scream of discrimination. Ask how Obama and Biden’s kids got into the top schools... They didn't do it by their scores. Without favoritism how will liberal elites buy their way by pandering to the egg heads that run the schools?
12 posted on 07/10/2019 9:32:39 AM PDT by King_Corey (OpenCarry.org -- http://defcad.org/)
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To: central_va

I would think that would be the best way to hold auditions, because in the end, the sound, the music and what they play is the entire point. Looks, race, gender don’t matter.

So some loser sues because they believed if the interviewers known their race/gender/looks, it would have helped them over come their less stellar performance.

Sad what our country has become


13 posted on 07/10/2019 9:33:23 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: SeekAndFind

We’d have more and better qualified doctors and engineers.


14 posted on 07/10/2019 9:35:45 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Kriggerel

They also looked at many things other than the SATs with the students who had very high SAT scores. Athletics, community service, etc. Minorities still won out anyway.


15 posted on 07/10/2019 9:36:57 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell..)
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To: Trump.Deplorable
Only the best of the best is allowed to attend, free of course.
. . . and the students should have athletic clubs which - irrespective of the students’ sex - compete with the major women’s college athletic programs.

16 posted on 07/10/2019 9:42:30 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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Nah, no athletics, costs too much and takes the focus off of academics, you want athletics, thousands of other universities to attend


17 posted on 07/10/2019 9:50:26 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: HangnJudge; SeekAndFind

The problem isn’t so much who’s attending as what they’re teaching.


18 posted on 07/10/2019 9:52:55 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually, it would look like a Comic-Con convention being held in Singapore or Bangalore, with a smattering of non-Asian faces filling out the mix. What would be even more shocking would be how the Georgetown basketball team would “pale” in comparison to its predecessors.


19 posted on 07/10/2019 10:03:44 AM PDT by katana
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To: SeekAndFind

And the increase in white enrollment is exactly why we will never see merit use to admit students.


20 posted on 07/10/2019 10:31:24 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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