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Yes, There Is A Soccer Pay Gap: The Women Make More Than The Men Do
The Federalist ^ | 07/08/2019 | John Glynn

Posted on 07/08/2019 10:02:42 AM PDT by Rusty0604

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1 posted on 07/08/2019 10:02:42 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

They get paid?


2 posted on 07/08/2019 10:04:57 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Rusty0604

Well they certainly didn’t make any off of me that I know of. Maybe some product I buy is somehow affiliated to them but not to my little pea brain do I know.


3 posted on 07/08/2019 10:05:37 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Rusty0604

World Cup - the equivalent of open borders.

Women’s World Cup is illegal aliens voting.


4 posted on 07/08/2019 10:07:02 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Rusty0604

It will be moot point when the she-males take over women’s sports.


5 posted on 07/08/2019 10:18:07 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (If it weren't for fake hate crimes, there would be no hate crimes at all.)
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To: rktman

https://www.ussoccer.com/governance/financial-information

Check the link for their IRS statments. Of course, they don’t let on where they got their HALF BILLION in 2018. Wish I knew so I could shop elsewhere.


6 posted on 07/08/2019 10:23:29 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Rusty0604

This isn’t the issue. The issue is how much does the US men’s team make vs. the US women’s team?


7 posted on 07/08/2019 10:33:07 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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Aoc brand socialism will pay them equally even though their revenue take is so much less...you know socialism and all....then they will be like Venezuela....all will be paid nothing-equally...Lolol...


8 posted on 07/08/2019 10:41:10 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: Rusty0604

>>We can debate the qualities of men’s sports and women’s sports all day and still clash heads. However, if people really want to have an honest conversation about earning disparities, then, instead of virtue signaling, how about attending some women’s games? After all, actions speak louder than words.<<

Because the product on the field is not as good. Most female team sports look like just ugly weak men playing (including Womens’ Communist Kickball for the most part) and don’t draw crowds.

Soon it will be mostly trannies anyway.

Let the marketplace decide on the salary. *gasp*


9 posted on 07/08/2019 10:42:10 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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To: Rusty0604

What’d that FC Dallas Boys U15 team ‘get’?


10 posted on 07/08/2019 10:49:27 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Rusty0604
I don't know about getting equal pay. I don't care about them being controversial on and off the field.

I don't normally watch soccer games.

But, this girl works hard and she's got magical feet, and I would pay to see every match that she's in (while closing my eyes every time Rapino gets involved in a play)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw2hcKNoz40

I don't know her politics and I don't care. I just know she's fun to watch.
11 posted on 07/08/2019 10:58:18 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Rusty0604

This is like Chevy Chase saying he wasn’t getting paid enough hosting a talk show compared to the casts of Friends. People watched Friends and the commercials. Nobody watch Chevy Chase.

Women soccer, even the World Cup Champs, do NOT generate enough money to get paid more. Not enough people watched. Get over women.

Women Sports just doesn’t do it.


12 posted on 07/08/2019 10:59:59 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: Rusty0604

average wage rates = demand for labor divided by supply of labor


13 posted on 07/08/2019 11:18:03 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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bkmk


14 posted on 07/08/2019 11:19:00 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Rusty0604
I'd like to see a report that lays out ALL the numbers, not just a cherry picked few that support the narrative. That said, the numbers are undeniably complicated. At the national team level, the U.S. women are champions while the U.S. men are embarrassments on the world stage. The USWNT gals have an argument.

It's complicated, however, by the fact that U.S. Soccer helps support the NWSL, whereas MLS is ( I think) self-supporting. At the club level, NWSL attendance has been slowly climbing, up to a current average of about 6,000 per game. That figure is pulled up by Portland, which averages about 18,000. No one else is even close.

The NWSL is the top women's league in the world. A lot of countries are improving here and U.S. players often spend time in European leagues or in Australia; since Australia is upside down and has winter when it should be summer, the soccer seasons don't overlap and a player can do both. That's why American fans get to watch Australia's Sam Kerr, who may be the best women's striker in the world, in the NWSL.

IIRC, MLS teams average 20,000, give or take an inch, so based on gate attendance, MLS players' pay should average about three times that of NWSL players. I will guess that the differential is higher and may reflect a richer tv contract. The NWSL just got a much improved tv deal which will help, but it's still not comparable. I have no idea what the viewership numbers are. But all of that relates to club salaries, which are very low in the NWSL. The pay for national team players is a separate deal. The gist of the ladies' complaint is that U.S. Soccer pays its stumblebum male players much more than its champion women players, despite the fact that the women outperform the men on the field and, rather regularly, in attendance and tv viewership. The men, of course, are lifted by revenue sharing from international men's soccer, which is huge and has a gigantic fan base in macho Latin countries that still pretty much ignore the women's game.

Another related question is dual headed vs. stand-alone teams. Several of the NWSL teams are corporate affiliates of MLS franchises, which raises another set of equity issues. Most NWSL teams, however, are independent, which means they have to operate on the basis of gate attendance, whatever corporate sponsorship they can rustle up, and however much money the owner is willing to lose ("invest in the future") each year. There are some weak owners who have created real problems.

Bottom line, the sport is evolving, both in the U.S. and internationally. I fully expect soccer to become the first women's team sport that becomes financially successful at the professional level without constant subsidies. I think it would be a mistake for the NWSL to follow the WNBA model and become nothing more than a financial parasite on the men's game. But the USWNT may have a legitimate beef with U.S. Soccer.

The real solution to the pay equity issue is for women's teams to attract more paying customers. As I tell my daughters and their soccer playing friends, it's ultimately about butts in seats and eyeballs on the screen. It's up to them to buy tickets and bring their boyfriends to a game once in awhile. And in that vein, my first question to any virtue signalling journalist or politician is how many games did YOU attend last year, and do they follow their team on tv. If the answers are zero and no, I would tell them to shut up and be quiet until they walk the walk.

15 posted on 07/08/2019 11:33:49 AM PDT by sphinx
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Re: your #12. Uhh, no. It is true that men’s soccer is huge internationally, while women’s club soccer is in the early stages of building strong leagues and a fan base. But the WWC is a marquee event. This year’s WWC drew well over a billion viewers, as compared to over three billion for the last men’s World Cup. The question is why a three to one differential in viewership translates into a more than ten to one differential in payouts to teams. FIFA has some ‘splainin’ to do.


16 posted on 07/08/2019 11:42:48 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Sans-Culotte

Good point.


17 posted on 07/08/2019 11:46:19 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (2020 four more years!)
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To: colorado tanker

As I posted the excerpt, men’s made 6 billion, women’s 131 mullion. The women got a higher percent, but the men made more money.


18 posted on 07/08/2019 11:49:40 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (2020 four more years!)
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Those are worldwide numbers, which includes revenue from places where soccer is wildly popular, which is it not in the US. My question is what does the US federation make off the men’s team and the women’s team? The article doesn’t say.


19 posted on 07/08/2019 12:05:05 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Rusty0604
Last year, the men's World Cup generated $6 billion, and gave about 7 percent to the teams. The 2019 Women's World Cup made $131 million, and gave out more than 20 percent to the teams.

There's the answer....the market is telling you which one is the better of the two.

20 posted on 07/08/2019 12:07:41 PM PDT by ealgeone
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