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Does loving others mean accepting their wickedness?
wnd.com ^ | 7/2/2019 | Mychal Massie

Posted on 07/02/2019 10:18:31 AM PDT by rktman

I recently received a letter from a Thomas Carpenter of Santa Monica, California. Suffice it to say the letter represented everything we would expect from his kind.

It appears Carpenter was offended because I spoke the unambiguous truth in my syndicated op-ed titled: “Homosexuality is not normal; it’s deviant sexual lust.”

Following is the chap’s jeremiad as it was received, unedited or changed in any way:

“For someone who says he doesn’t hate homosexuals you really go out of your way to judge and condemn them. As a person raised in a religious background, I distinctly recall the part about not judging others. If you loved them, you would accept them as other children of God, because that’s what they are. As for the part about homosexuality being a ‘deviancy,’ I would ask you if you have bothered to read what the major medical/scientific associations all say about the subject? They distinctly say that homosexuality is a sexual orientation, and NOT a deviancy or a disorder! As such, these experts agree that homosexuality is not contagious either, so forget that threat. You say it’s your right to refuse to accept acts of sexual perversion, and that’s true, just don’t do anything you consider a perversion. It just isn’t your right as a ‘born again Christian’ to play God. As for subject being ‘born again,’ I personally see that many of your kind overreact to many of life’s realities, perhaps as a compensation for your own insecurities and past failures. But who am I to judge!”

Carpenter is emblematic of those who are remorselessly given over to sin. What he has written sounds akin to someone making bubbling sounds with their head in the toilet.

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To: FalloutShelterGirl
So the problem isn't "judgement," it's not getting approval. If you know what you're doing is right, you don't care if anyone approves. Therefore, they know what they are doing is NOT right. What the really want is free license to do as they please with no accountability.

Deserves repeating!

21 posted on 07/02/2019 11:22:27 AM PDT by RightField
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To: rktman

The confusion arises from seeing homosexuality as something a person IS. It’s not. It’s something a person DOES. In separating the person — the doer — from the deed, we can judge the act without judging God’s creature.

It is God’s place to judge the person. But He’s made it pretty clear which way the balance will fall on practicing homosexuals.


22 posted on 07/02/2019 11:26:22 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: rktman

No.


23 posted on 07/02/2019 11:41:23 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: FalloutShelterGirl

LOL! No doubt the most hateful and intolerant ones we know are the first to put the “NOH8” out there as a meme. And they refuse to see it as hypocritical. We must accept EVERYTHING from them and they will NOT accept anything from us. But, I’m good.


24 posted on 07/02/2019 11:49:11 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: FalloutShelterGirl

***”Approval” is also a judgement. They want approval. So the problem isn’t “judgement,” it’s not getting approval. ***

Exactly eight.


25 posted on 07/02/2019 11:50:13 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: rktman

Yeah…it’s like the guy who has a King Cobra, a Black Mamba and a Coral snake for pets. He is trying to convince you that it’s okay because there’s no law against having them, but most importantly, he has them because he can have them. You’re not him, so you can’t understand all of the inner turmoil and strife that comes along with not having what you so desperately want. He’ll say “God made him that way”. So, who are you to judge him? Same thing with homosexuals, trannies, et. al. They’re pretending to be something they truly are not because they can, and there’s not really much you can do about it other than engaging in pointless banter. Their mind has been turned over to reprobation, and they’re right, and you’re wrong. It’s not their problem, it’s yours. You’re just going to have to deal with it.

And then one day, the Cobra bites him, and half his abdomen splits open as the venom quickly digests and rots his tissues away in the multiple bite sites on his body, and very soon he’s struggling to keep his intestines inside his abdomen and off of the floor. He’s screaming in pain begging for someone, anyone to help him. He’s hoping that paramedics arrive quickly, hopefully in time get him to the hospital to put him back together and pump him full of super expensive antivenin in a desperate attempt to save him. He may end up at best losing a limb or two, at worst losing his life. Now he’s scared and full of regret because he can no longer control his fate; it’s no longer in his hands.
Now, ask yourself this question: “Do you feel sorry for him? Or, not?” I mean after all, who could have possibly seen something like this coming? If only there had been some way… some mechanism by which he could have been persuaded that highly toxic reptiles can be detrimental to his well-being. Someone to warn him of the potential dangers. Maybe he would have listened and not tried to prove that you were an uniformed rube.

Many of the homosexuals I know are very much the same way. They say they’ll deal with God and judgement when it happens, and if they don’t cut the mustard, oh well, they say “I guess I’ll just have to accept my fate”.

Good luck with that.


26 posted on 07/02/2019 11:54:41 AM PDT by Home-of-the-lazy-dog ("Leftists will stand before you and cut off their own head just to prove that they'll do it!")
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
So true . . . and what is also true is that our comments would be equally valid if you were to substitute ‘sexual promiscuity’ or ‘homosexuality’ (and its various other forms of deviancy) for ‘drugs’ or ‘alcoholism.’
27 posted on 07/02/2019 12:41:43 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Very interesting post re alcohol, drug use by loved one.

I have a son wrecking and possibly ending his life with booze to the extent that he just walked out of a $220K tech job after three weeks to drink...I think he’s now homeless. I’ve done everything in my power, but with addiction, the power of parents and loved ones is very limited. We didn’t cause it and can’t cure it.

My wonderful physician talked to me about it a couple of weeks ago when I told him I was depressed about my son. He held his large hand right in front of my face and said: “I have three sons, age 13, 11, and 5. In my life, who comes first?”
“Number 1 is me,” pointing to his first very large finger.
“Number 2 is me,” pointing to his second finger
“Number 3 (and I’m expecting he’ll start naming his sons) is me”
“Number 4 is me”
....and
“Number 5 is everyone else. “

The idea is that you cannot take care of anyone properly unless you are on very firm ground within yourself. Tough to do, but you you must or you’ll go crazy too. Alcoholism IS a form of insanity. Or suicide.

All I or anyone else can do is pray, which I do daily. He, of course, is an atheist. Liberal, another form of insanity.

I do go to Alanon, where one of the most important ideas is “I didn’t cause it and can’t cure it.” Hard to let go like that for a. mom who’s always loved her child.
But I’m prepared for his death. I plan to send him a cremation brochure and ask him where he wants his ashes sprinkled. Like to think that will be a wake-up call, but he’ll probably drink about it.


28 posted on 07/02/2019 1:12:52 PM PDT by Veto! (Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me))
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To: Veto!
You're physician is a wise man. My heart aches for you, but you have done and are doing as much a loving father can reasonably do.

God will force no man to heaven and we, as mere humans, can not do so either.

29 posted on 07/02/2019 3:42:30 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: rktman

I had to deal with this attitude in ministry.

Love is hard, and can be harsh. What people call love toward reprobates and deviants is niceness; it is usually borne of a desire not to be disliked in return. It is often (not always) selfish and self centered.

It is not loving to blandly encourage others to live in a way harmful to themselves and others.

Jesus was not nice to the rich young man, or to the woman at the well; he was loving.

Niceness has emasculated the institutionalized church.


30 posted on 07/02/2019 4:37:05 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Vigilanteman

Thanks.
But I’m a loving mother. Same thing applies


31 posted on 07/03/2019 1:06:34 PM PDT by Veto! (Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me))
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To: Veto!
Yes it does, and probably even more so. You have my best wishes and prayers.

It is an all too common misconception that only guys post on Free Republic unless your screen name clearly suggests otherwise.

32 posted on 07/03/2019 1:10:56 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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