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Does a Photo Show Joe Biden With the ‘Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan’?
Snopes ^ | PUBLISHED 28 JUNE 2019 | DAN MACGUILL

Posted on 06/28/2019 8:51:47 PM PDT by conservative98

Claim A photograph shared on social media in June 2019 showed former Vice President Joe Biden with the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

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Mostly False About this rating What's True The 2008 photograph shows Biden with Robert Byrd, a West Virginia senator who was during the 1940s a member and organizer for the Ku Klux Klan.

What's False Byrd was never "Grand Wizard" of the Ku Klux Klan

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KEYWORDS: biden; democrats; joebiden; kkk; pelham; robertkkkbyrd
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To: wardaddy

With D’Souza and Beck selling it to them. And they’re not the only two. If Rush and Hannity opened a history book it would usually be by accident.


41 posted on 06/28/2019 10:44:10 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Leaning Right

“But morally, I make no distinction between a Republican who supported the Klan and a Democrat who supported the Klan. Both would have some explaining to do. No free pass for either.”

Since morality is your interest, what is your judgement of the slave owners of the Founding era? That’s kind of related to the whole KKK thing. There was no Democratic Party until 1828, and all but two of the Presidents up til that election had owned slaves. Washington was maybe the largest slave owner of his era. So was slavery evil then? Or does it only become evil 90 years later with the Civil War?


42 posted on 06/28/2019 10:55:05 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: wardaddy; petitfour; Ohioan; Jack Black

The Klan was at its peak in the 1915-1925 era...the “Second Klan”, the first time that a motion picture generated real world imitation on a mass scale.

The Don’t Know Much About History crowd loves to equate the Klan with the Democratic Party, but the Second Klan didn’t care about political party

This becomes easy to see when you consider that the Second Klan was anti-Catholic, and the 1928 Democratic candidate for President was Governor Al Smith of New York, the first Catholic to ever be nominated by a major party. Not exactly what a Klan controlled party would do.


43 posted on 06/28/2019 11:05:34 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Pelham

> Since morality is your interest, what is your judgement of the slave owners of the Founding era? <

Good question. As I noted earlier, I try to judge people within the context of their times.

That is something that most liberals refuse to do. Those liberals try to impose today’s standards on folks who lived hundreds of years ago. That is simply not fair.

Back in the year 1800, holding slaves was an acceptable practice. But beating them to death was not. So humane slave owners get a reluctant pass from me. Brutal slave owners get no such pass. The institution was evil. But the slave owners were not (automatically) evil. They were instead a product of their times.

And from what I’ve read, the Founders who were slave holders were humane people. So as I said, they get a pass from me.

By the way, when liberals disagree with me, I tell them this: Back in the 1950’s Martin Luther King wrote an article where he said - in no uncertain terms - that homosexuality was a mental disorder. Such a statement would deeply offend today’s liberals. Should King be erased from history, or should he be judged within the context of his times?

(Sorry for the length of my responses. I am once again fighting a bad case of insomnia. So I just type away.)


44 posted on 06/28/2019 11:19:23 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Pelham
Did mommy help you write that?

Well, what a convincing argument. Art Linkletter owes you a refund.

45 posted on 06/28/2019 11:38:38 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: Pelham

That’s a good point I had not thought of


46 posted on 06/28/2019 11:42:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...th)
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To: Pelham
Good grief. Give up the fake history. Robert Byrd had abandoned any connection with the KKK decades before that picture was taken and he was never a “Grand Wizard” anyway.

The pic and caption are 100% false. Snopes fudges again.

47 posted on 06/28/2019 11:48:22 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Robert Byrd, a West Virginia senator... was never "Grand Wizard" of the Ku Klux Klan
That's okay then. Thanks conservative98.

48 posted on 06/28/2019 11:56:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Leaning Right

From the wikipedia:
In his last autobiography, Byrd explained that he was a KKK member because he “was sorely afflicted with tunnel vision—a jejune and immature outlook—seeing only what I wanted to see because I thought the Klan could provide an outlet for my talents and ambitions.”[22] Byrd also said in 2005, “I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.”[11]


49 posted on 06/29/2019 12:02:40 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Jonty30

No, because the worst thing the water buffaloes ever did was aing that terrible song “We wish you a happy anniversary...”


50 posted on 06/29/2019 12:04:10 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Vendome

Robert Byrd and White Niggers
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PnO6ai0Ktro


51 posted on 06/29/2019 12:11:25 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Pelham

Have you forgotten Byrd’s infamous 2001 interview with Tony Snow (RIP) on Fox News Sunday in which he used the term “white n****r” twice, and got off with a lame apology?

https://youtu.be/PnO6ai0Ktro?t=71

2001 isn’t exactly the ancient history that you use to excuse Byrd’s Klan involvement. And this was Hillary’s “mentor”.

Imagine what would happen if a sitting Republican senator said that publicly.


52 posted on 06/29/2019 12:20:18 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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To: Lurker
Byrd was a recruiter for the Klan and he was a member.Grand Wizard, Exalted Cyclops, Grand Kleagle, what's the difference? They were a bunch of sheet wearing pointy headed domestic terrorists who assaulted and murdered people. And they were Democrats.
53 posted on 06/29/2019 12:27:45 AM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?''.)
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To: Pelham

And when LBJ signed the bill he said “If this bill passes I’ll have them n****er’s voting Democrat for the next two hundred years’’. By the way, LBJ’s party wouldn’t pass the bill. He had to turn to Everett Dirksen(R. Wisconsin) Senate Minority leader to get the bill passed.


54 posted on 06/29/2019 12:33:05 AM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?''.)
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To: Pelham

They call us Racist with little, or more often no evidence, we’ll call them the same when we have evidence, UNTIL THEY STOP. Otherwise, WE will be the only racists in the eyes of middle America, and some of us are sick of being treated that way - me included, at least when I visit relatives. Now I hit them right back.


55 posted on 06/29/2019 5:05:42 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: conservative98

Is he in photo with man who strongly opposed Civil Rights act? Civil Rights act 1964 Byrd filibustered for hours (what did he say?) Democrats filibuster was 84 days. Southern Democrats opposed it. It passed due to huge GOP support in both Houses and Northern Dems


56 posted on 06/29/2019 5:06:07 AM PDT by SMGFan ("God love ya! What am I talking about")
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To: conservative98

Odd how the signs in the background can mean many things.


57 posted on 06/29/2019 6:17:09 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: conservative98

And Manchin is behind them.

None of them will ever be President.


58 posted on 06/29/2019 6:27:42 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If we get Medicare for all, will we have to show IDs for service?)
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To: Pelham
And plenty of Republican politicians in the upper Midwest and the far West supported the Klan...

Wow...

Seriously?

Because a handful of misguided Republicans supported the Klan somewhere in the deep past, we should discount and ignore the evil that the Democrat party created and used as a terror weapon against both blacks AND Republicans???

I've got to shake my head at this one...

59 posted on 06/29/2019 6:58:17 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: SunkenCiv

Senator Robert Byrd (democrat) was a Kleagle, a Klan recruiter, in his 20s and 30s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_members_in_United_States_politics#Politicians_who_were_active_in_the_Klan_at_some_time
from link:

Politicians who were active in the Klan at some time

Robert Byrd

Senator Robert Byrd was a Kleagle, a Klan recruiter, in his 20s and 30s.

Robert C. Byrd, was a recruiter for the Klan while in his 20s and 30s, rising to the title of Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops of his local chapter. After leaving the group, Byrd spoke in favor of the Klan during his early political career. Though he claimed to have left the organization in 1943, Byrd, wrote a letter in 1946 to the group’s Imperial Wizard stating “The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia.” Byrd attempted to explain or defend his former membership in the Klan in his 1958 U.S. Senate campaign when he was 41 years old.[1] Byrd, a Democrat, eventually became his party leader in the Senate.

Byrd later said joining the Klan was his “greatest mistake.”[2] However, in a 2001 incident Byrd repeatedly used the phrase “white niggers” on a national television broadcast.[3]


60 posted on 06/29/2019 8:17:28 AM PDT by GOPJ (How did the illegal community become the number one constituency of the Democrat Party? - - Rush L.)
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