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"You have received us with bombs" Assassination of Franz Ferdinand and the end of Christian Europe
Gloria Romanorum ^ | June 28, 2018 | Florentius

Posted on 06/28/2019 7:12:51 AM PDT by Antoninus

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105 years ago today, Christian Europe was dealt a mortal wound.
1 posted on 06/28/2019 7:12:51 AM PDT by Antoninus
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To: ebb tide; Salvation; Mrs. Don-o

Catholic ping.


2 posted on 06/28/2019 7:16:10 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: Antoninus

Indeed, WWII was just a continuum of what WWI started - namely the introduction of nihilism, atheism, Neo-marxism, and collectivism in Europe. It continues today.


3 posted on 06/28/2019 7:18:45 AM PDT by PGR88
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I’m familiar with the history, and there have been many assassinations, but the article does not say why this particular assassination is the end of European Christendom.


4 posted on 06/28/2019 7:19:20 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Antoninus

One of the unusual side stories to the Crown Prince....from his teens on...this guy spent a vast amount of his time hunting. The majority of an average year...he was out on hunting trips. There’s probably no one existing in the monarchy that could handle a rifle as well as this guy.


5 posted on 06/28/2019 7:19:20 AM PDT by pepsionice
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And the beginning of the emergence of the USA as a global superpower.


6 posted on 06/28/2019 7:22:43 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Antoninus

By the 1930’s, the Holy Roman Empire had morphed into Nazi Germany. God was officially declared dead.


7 posted on 06/28/2019 7:24:19 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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And the beginning of the emergence of the USA as a global superpower.

We were already there. Europe's auto-suicide only hastened the pace.
8 posted on 06/28/2019 7:24:24 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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There’s probably no one existing in the monarchy that could handle a rifle as well as this guy.

Good addition. I had never heard the part about him throwing himself in front of the duchess when Princip fired. He may have been taciturn, but he proved himself a man when the moment of crisis arrived.
9 posted on 06/28/2019 7:26:00 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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Christian Europe died long before this. The rise of humanist philosophy began killing it before the French revolution.


10 posted on 06/28/2019 7:26:08 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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The disintegrated mode of thought, which started with Kant, was gathering strength for decades, The products of a culture depends on its dominant mode of thought. This assassination just aggravated and sped up the disintegration of Europe.


11 posted on 06/28/2019 7:27:26 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Christian Europe died long before this. The rise of humanist philosophy began killing it before the French revolution.

More accurate to say that Christian Europe was gravely ill up to 1914. World War I killed it dead. Would that it might rise again.
12 posted on 06/28/2019 7:33:51 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: Antoninus

“You have received us with bombs.”
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Move Zig. For great justice!


13 posted on 06/28/2019 7:33:56 AM PDT by z3n
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I think the war would have happened soon in any case. Too many powers thought war was the means they needed to achieve their just destiny. One if the Emperors’ ministers had been pushing for war for years. Ironically, it was only Ferdinand standing in his way that stopped war.


14 posted on 06/28/2019 7:34:00 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Antoninus; Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; Hieronymus; irishjuggler; Jaded; ...

Ping


15 posted on 06/28/2019 7:36:26 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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I blame primarily the Russians among the Great Powers for starting the war. They had no defense treaty with Serbia whose state sponsored terrorism had drawn down the wrath of the Hapsburg Empire - yet despite that they clamored for war. Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany spoke with his cousin the Tsar and after he explained Germany could not allow the Russians to fully mobilize along his border without having to go to war (Germany’s only Defense was its ability to mobilize faster....allowing the Russians a head start would have rendered Germany defenseless in the Germans’ estimation) the Tsar assured the Kaiser he would only partially mobilize along the Hapsburg border.

Then the Russian generals told him they had no plan for partial mobilization. Yet Russia demanded war so the Tsar agreed to full scale mobilization. How does anybody think that looked to the Germans?....like the Russians had deliberately lied to them and were planning war with Germany too all along. When the Germans then asked the French if they would mobilize to attack Germany due to their treaty with Russia when it was the Russians who were starting the war, the French responded that they “would have to consult their interests”....ie that yes indeed, they would attack Germany.

That lit the fuse.

Of course, the Serbs are the ones whose government supported the terrorists even providing them the Browning model 1910 pistols they used to carry out the assassination. It’d be like the Cubans assassinating the President-Elect. Obviously no country is going to tolerate that. We wouldn’t.


16 posted on 06/28/2019 7:37:12 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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No, Princip didn’t spring from the crowd...he was wandering down a street alone on his way to the river to throw himself in and drown himself...they had failed to do what they had planned...the assassination of Franz Ferdinand... and he was idealistic and despondent...

The driver of the Archduke’s car was not familiar with the streets and was lost and they werent accompanied by any guards...the Archduke had told the driver to turn around and go to the hospital to be with the wounded people, and in the confusion nobody followed them...

Princip saw the car and pulled out a gun and shot the Archduke and his wife...the wife was wearing a white dress and the blood showed up nicely...


17 posted on 06/28/2019 7:37:30 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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The tragic son was Rudolph who had shot his mistress dead and then committed suicide in a mountain lodge...


18 posted on 06/28/2019 7:40:05 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Well, it triggered WWI which effectively started the decline of European imperialism, and also paved the way for the rise of Fascism, Communism, and Socialism in Europe. Those atheist systems have now replaced the old republics and monarchies in every major nation in Europe.


19 posted on 06/28/2019 7:44:13 AM PDT by Boogieman
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And the Spanish Inquisition had helped “Christian Europe?”

The Catholic church was the biggest reason “Christianity” was lost in Europe.

Protestantism was the rebirth of the Original Church, against the many more and theological failures of Catholicism.

As proof, look at the underpinnings of Central and South America versus North America (the US). It is a stark contrast from a clean slate approach, proving Catholic countries are inherent failures of despotism.

Enjoy.


20 posted on 06/28/2019 7:45:55 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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