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Did Van Gogh Shoot Himself? Auction of [purported] Pistol Reignites Debate.
Live Science| ^ | June 17, 2019 | Tom Metcalfe,

Posted on 06/19/2019 10:21:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin

The gun will be auctioned in France on Wednesday (June 19), where it's expected to sell for more than $50,000.

For years, most Van Gogh experts have accepted the explanation that he shot himself in the chest with a pistol in a suicide in July 1890

Van Gogh lived on for 30 hours before dying from the wound. His last words, according to his brother Theo, were "the sadness will last forever."

But in 2011, biographers Gregory White Smith and Steven Naifeh argued that Van Gogh didn't shoot himself, but was shot accidentally by 16-year-old René Secrétan, who was spending the summer in the village.

According to their biography "Van Gogh: The Life" (Random House, 2011), Secrétan and his brother both befriended and bullied Van Gogh when he stayed at Auvers — and that Secrétan possessed the gun involved.

The gun being auctioned in Paris next week is a Belgian-made 7mm Lefaucheux revolver — a popular small caliber handgun at that time.

The gun matches the description of the 7mm bullet taken from Van Gogh's body by his doctor, and it is theorized that its low power may be why Van Gogh didn't die immediately, but staggered back to his hotel with the bullet still lodged in his chest.

The pistol was found by a farmer in 1965 — 75 years after Van Gogh's death — in a field at Auvers, badly corroded and beyond use. It was then given to the family who owned the hotel where Van Gogh died.

Grégoire Veyrès, the auctioneer for Auction Art who is conducting the sale, told Live Science that an investigation by the writer Alain Rohan determined that the corroded weapon had been buried in the ground for at least 50 years.

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Health/Medicine; History
KEYWORDS: auctions; lefaucheux; vangogh
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To: Lee N. Field

Just a reflex response. I was always corrected on gun nomenclature by my old man. Heh, even heard his voice “ That would be a revolver, lad” as I typed. Muscle memory sort of


21 posted on 06/19/2019 11:38:04 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: BenLurkin
If you get a chance...what this old movie...Lust for Life (1956)

Sep 15, 1956 · Directed by Vincente Minnelli, George Cukor.

With Kirk Douglas, Anthony Quinn, James Donald, Pamela Brown.

The life of brilliant but tortured artist Vincent van Gogh.

22 posted on 06/19/2019 11:44:43 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: BenLurkin

Willem Dafoe just got an Oscar nomination for playing van Gogh in At Eternity’s Gate last year.


23 posted on 06/19/2019 11:48:01 AM PDT by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: BenLurkin

If I couldn’t paint any better than a first grader, I might consider shooting myself.


24 posted on 06/19/2019 11:50:06 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Spruce

Back in the Old West era, contemporary documents, show that most folks called revolvers “pistols,” i.e.’ Wild Bill Hikock, etc. Before revolvers first came on the scene in the late 1830s (Sam Colt’s invention), most single and double barreled handguns were called “pistols.”


25 posted on 06/19/2019 2:04:55 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: Spruce

Revolver vs Pistol...Is that a distinction without a difference, or other way around? Both are handguns...

Matchlocks, flintlocks, percussion cap and ball, revolvers and semi auto mag fed have all from time to time and place to place been referred to as “pistols” in the broader, generic sense...All are handguns...

Many have “pistols” that fire rifle cartridges and look just like SBRs...I suppose the relatively recent ATF driven distinction between revolvers and semi auto mag fed handguns serves a purpose where legalistic precision of description is concerned, but in the broader term, there’s really nothing wrong with describing or referring to any handgun as a pistol, and doing so casts no doubt on the IQ of the writer...OTOH, the wise man always distinguishes...


26 posted on 06/19/2019 2:06:40 PM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s a revolver - a pistol looks like a Model 1911 - magazine, slide, etc.....


27 posted on 06/20/2019 3:12:48 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: marajade

Interesting. Will keep a lookout for that and see how it compares with “Lust for Life”


28 posted on 06/20/2019 6:56:05 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Usually I buy everything I want, but there is a limit. I’ll wait until it is on HBO, Showtime, or Starz which I subscribe too.


29 posted on 06/20/2019 9:38:06 AM PDT by marajade (Skywalker)
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