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To: tinyowl

You’re assuming academia wasn’t involved.

Look, I agree with the limits of government, especially the day to day elected bureaucrats (morons). Those hired into non-elected positions within the CIA/NSA are a completely different beast...you’re acting like Snowden didn’t happen. Add to this that government and academia constantly collaborate on many things, both publicly and privately, to believe the government has to come up with the idea is patently absurd.

They way you talk it’s as though I think soldiers design weapon systems. Of course not...it’s happens with combining academia, private companies, and government $$$. Why would you think they wouldn’t use the same apparatus for social engineering? That’s incredibly naive. Do you not see the younger generations consumed with their smartphone? MOST don’t watch any news - but they “know” the news by what friends on FB post, a monopoly, completely under the control of a sociopath.

I work in big tech - I know what is possible and it is frightening me. I also know exactly how the government behaves respective to developing weapons with academics and private companies. Yet, amazingly, this is just crazy talk when applied to a social media platform. One created after the Patriot Act, where massive government surveillance began.

Next you’ll be telling me you don’t know what wechat is....the Chinese social credit score is coming to America and some don’t see it’s through tech giants, with plenty of government meddling. The UK demonized the CEO of YouTube because the “wrong” search results appear - basically certain people should be shut down. They demanded YT change the algorithms - and what happened immediately? The de-platforming of conservatives followed.

I thought more on here understood what is possible, the way things are done, and the nature of government (fascists). This is going to make me rethink...


65 posted on 06/17/2019 3:55:41 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fuzzylogic
"I work in big tech - I know what is possible and it is frightening me."

Yeah me too, although I'd say 'concerned sincerely', not frightened.

Have you seen Jordan Peterson's new project?

We know big tech, especially social media, is sleeping with the lefties, just as education and media and academia are and have been for a loooooooong time, and these nutbag social media employees who turn into their leadership are products of their propaganda education, no disagreement that it's infected, and it's a serious infection.

I think where we are different is merely on the level of our emotional response. For various reasons, I believe, when it comes to this, the US has the flu (and probably always will,) and you believe it's plausibly and perhaps probably terminal cancer.

But we both believe the US is sick.

How strong is our immune system? How deadly is the disease/infection? What's the prognosis? You are frightened, I am only sincerely concerned. My life is not made negative by it.

America will tolerate a lot of crap before they put a stop to something. But as I think Winston said 'The American people generally do the right thing, but only after they have tried everything else.'

So I won't argue that the patient isn't sick, only that ... in part, the patient has always been sick ... and this isn't going to be what kills him, nor will it be the thing that weakened him so much that another normally non-lethal thing killed him.

Be a warrior, but be a happy warrior. We are sick, have always been, but we have a strong immune system. It's always at work, but only shows itself to the worldly senses when things get really really out of hand. Right now, there is only one 'really.'

84 posted on 06/17/2019 5:28:31 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: fuzzylogic

Many of us do understand and see this daily.

I am waiting for the de-platforming of FR. Within the next three years.

I appreciate you speaking up.


104 posted on 06/18/2019 3:51:59 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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