Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

A Conservative ‘Twitter’? Too Likely to Be a Conservative ‘Cwitter’
The Stream ^ | June 13, 2019 | Tom Gilson

Posted on 06/13/2019 9:44:09 AM PDT by Heartlander

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-39 last
To: Heartlander
As far as the theological Christian conservatives go, many have the attitude of "waiting for a sign from God", or praying to "God to do something".

They don't realize it is they who need to "do something". George Washington and the rest of our founding fathers prayed to God for help and guidance, but they "did something" in a big way, risking everything they had.

21 posted on 06/13/2019 10:15:53 AM PDT by Mogger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Fiji Hill

Wrong. You can go to twitter and read tweets all day long without having an account. Facebook will give you a popup that comes up from the bottom of the screen but you can still see stuff. Facebook pages, like what a business would have, are completely viewable to the non-logged in public.

All these alternative social sites simply present you with a log in/register page and before you can see anything else, you must register or log in.

mewe.com has pages like facebook but what good is it to have a page that only logged in users can see?


22 posted on 06/13/2019 10:23:24 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: adorno

“BTW, CWitter is a no-no for a name.”

Change the W to L, and there would be LOTS of interest by practically everyone.


23 posted on 06/13/2019 10:28:08 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

True. By nature, conservative business ventures are built on ROI, not “fairness “, “giving a voice to the community”, or similar emotional claptrap. Most social media has succeeded in ways never envisioned by the founders.


24 posted on 06/13/2019 10:37:46 AM PDT by bigbob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Heartlander; All

I disagree that a Ctwitter or Cyoutube or CFacebook would fail. I think it would be a “King has no clothes moment” where it will all of a sudden become apparent that all the boycott threats are merely bluster from the Gay Cabell or whatever name you give it and that they just do a lot of raving and ranting, along with their pet CEOs, teachers and politicians.

Noboody likes to think they are being cheated out of their just due, and that’s what will happen when the people who give second thought to the “agenda” would convert like a stampede to a new platform. Perhaps not facebook, it’s entrenched and very many users have to much vested in it while caring nothing about who advertises on it. It will certainly pull all the ‘demonetized’ users over who in turn will help fund the platforms with from the fees they earn.

But this is all pipe dreaming until IP, copyright and trademarks are revoked because they refuse to service everybody equally and thus disenfranchising them.

After all that the question remains. What do the Cplatforms do about real Nazi advocates and real troublesome race baiters?


25 posted on 06/13/2019 10:48:45 AM PDT by Fhios
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: treetopsandroofs

IP, Copyright and trademarks need to be revoked under under disenfranchisement reasons.


26 posted on 06/13/2019 10:50:51 AM PDT by Fhios
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Pollard

You can’t see anything on twitter unless you login can you?


27 posted on 06/13/2019 11:08:13 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Fiji Hill

“But Twitter and Facebook are also closed systems.”

Ah, but not so much when they started and were still fighting to take over the market. You used to be able to view most stuff on FB without an account, and the same was true for twitter. You only needed an account if you wanted to view private stuff, send PMs, etc.


28 posted on 06/13/2019 11:29:48 AM PDT by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Two Kids' Dad
I do believe you're right with some quibbles, Two Kids's Dad. Private echo chambers should in fact be included but not as primary characteristics of the service's public face. The larger memetic ecology, naturally, should be governed by sophisticated reputation moderation algorithms. Nonetheless, your points stand tall. Retreating entirely into a well of echoes is a recipe for failure. This topic bears further thought. ^^;

(With apologies for overwriting your carefully chosen HTML emphasis tags in a simplistic blockquote style -- I'm sloshed and lack the patience for the painstaking editing work required to accurately reflect said HTML tags in a blockquoted passage.)

Instead of a Twitter alternative for conservatives, there needs to be a Twitter alternative run by conservatives for everyone. Make sure the algorithms stay clean and fair, according to rules/guidelines that are clear and available to everyone who uses or views the site.

It ain't rocket science. And it can't be set up as an echo chamber exclusively for like-thinking people. It needs to reach out to everyone and allow misguided people to have the opportunity to receive a conservative or libertarian perspective.


29 posted on 06/13/2019 11:49:53 AM PDT by Sarcasm Factory
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: treetopsandroofs
Change the W to L, and there would be LOTS of interest by practically everyone.

"Clitter"?

Libs would easily remove the "C" and then, what would you be left with?
30 posted on 06/13/2019 11:58:02 AM PDT by adorno
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Pollard
You make an excellent point about closed systems, Pollard. Why in the world are gab.ai, mewe.com, parler.com, and others erecting forbidding walls against "outsiders"? What can this siege mentality hope to accomplish? At a minimum, the walls should be made of transparent glass, allowing any passersby to gawk at what's on offer. It's not a whole lot different from how retail stores build security doors against crooks but also huge glass windows that display goods and services for all to see and desire. o_o
31 posted on 06/13/2019 12:01:26 PM PDT by Sarcasm Factory
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Pollard
Wrong. You can go to twitter and read tweets all day long without having an account. Facebook will give you a popup that comes up from the bottom of the screen but you can still see stuff. Facebook pages, like what a business would have, are completely viewable to the non-logged in public.

All these alternative social sites simply present you with a log in/register page and before you can see anything else, you must register or log in.

On the Twitter home page, there's a button to log in and one to sign up. If you're not a member or don't want to sign up, that's as far as you're going.

The Facebook home page is similar, giving you the option of signing in or signing up. Otherwise, you go no further. When I bypass the homepage by going directly to a Facebook site, a dialog box pops up demanding that I log in or sign up.

The Gab homepage features an "Explore" button that allows for reading some of the posts on the site.

32 posted on 06/13/2019 12:02:08 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: adorno

Haha, my guess was that “liberal” leftist “leaders” like Samantha C*** and all their immature followers/voters would especially want to leave the C in....


33 posted on 06/13/2019 12:05:38 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Heartlander

If you do that it will only attract conservatives. The idea is to get relatives and friends to move to a better platform, so it needs to simply be a censorship free platform that lets all views exist.


34 posted on 06/13/2019 12:10:04 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goodnesswins

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

You can go there and read all the President’s (or anyone else’s) tweets without being logged in. You’ll get a little pop down on the top right to log in or register but that’s it.

All the other’s I mentioned, all you get is a blank page with a login/register form. Can’t go any further or see anyone’s posts.

Wait:
Just checked out gab.ai. Looks like they allow you to see some stuff now without being logged in. It was completely closed originally.

But their system is screwy. Anyone can “follow” you and when they do, you get to see their posts unless you “mute” them. I got sick of going there and having to mute 20 new jackasses every time I logged in.

parler, I haven’t looked into yet but as per the article, we can start all the social networks we want but people are too lazy to move and don’t want to leave their “friends” behind. You end up with a bunch of little echo chambers like gab. Jew haters and actual white supremacists who think it’s fun to write nasty posts about black people all day and use the N word, usually preceded by F-ing.

It needs to be a new concept, not just a copy of or slightly different version of fb/twitter. Both of those were brand new concepts when they came out which is why they became so popular.


35 posted on 06/13/2019 12:11:04 PM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Fiji Hill

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

True, they do make it look like you have to log in/register but it’s not so. You can read Trump’s tweets all day long without logging in.

Facebook does have a popup that takes up half the page but you can shrink it by clicking “Not now”, especially on “pages” like a business page.

https://www.facebook.com/homedepot

I just noticed gab has that explore link. I don’t think it did originally and I don’t go there anymore because constantly having to “mute” people is a pita


36 posted on 06/13/2019 12:17:51 PM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: thoughtomator
The thing is, we DID build our own platforms. . . . The people who built our tech infrastructure were overwhelmingly libertarian. The Left had no interest in any of it until it became successful.

. . . These Communists built nothing on their own - they took over the institutions we built.

O’Sullivan’s First Law:

All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing.

I cite as supporting evidence the ACLU, the Ford Foundation, and the Episcopal Church. The reason is, of course, that people who staff such bodies tend to be the sort who don't like private profit, business, making money, the current organization of society, and, by extension, the Western world. At which point Michels's Iron Law of Oligarchy takes over — and the rest follows.


37 posted on 06/13/2019 12:18:43 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

It would be interesting to find out where the cash flows of these social media platforms are coming from, and who may be pulling the strings from behind the scenes.


38 posted on 06/13/2019 1:30:11 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: I want the USA back; Alberta's Child

They managed to de-platform gab.ai for a while, by going after their infrastructure.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/5/18049132/gab-social-network-online-synagogue-shooting-deplatforming-return-godaddy-paypal-stripe-ban

They would similarly try to shut down any other conservative social media if it threatened to become successful.


39 posted on 06/13/2019 1:36:34 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-39 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson