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At least four more die on Everest amid overcrowding concerns
UK Guardian ^ | May 24, 2019 | Peter Beaumont

Posted on 05/25/2019 3:35:46 AM PDT by C19fan

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Kevin was one of the strongest and most experienced climbers on our team, and had previously summited Everest South and Lhotse.”

It's not just amateurs ... Everest kills the pros too.

41 posted on 05/25/2019 6:20:41 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: ThunderSleeps

If you’re anywhere near east TN, check out the “Cherohala/Dragon 120 Mile Loop” ride on the western edge of the Great Smokey Mountains National Park. It’s one of the best motorcycle rides in the US, and probably the best one in the eastern US.


42 posted on 05/25/2019 6:22:06 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: SamAdams76

They have to “climb” to base camp. It’s not like there’s a taxi service.


43 posted on 05/25/2019 6:23:05 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Vaquero

Beck Weathers. He still practices medicine.


44 posted on 05/25/2019 6:24:39 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Vaquero

“They did affix some sort sort of nose from butt skin.”

Whenever he sneezes everyone shouts “Hey, who f@rted??”


45 posted on 05/25/2019 6:30:01 AM PDT by elcid1970 (No matter how bad things get, it can only be worse in New Jersey!)
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To: EEGator

“I’d rather go to Hawaii and tan while staring at hotties in thong bikinis...”

Makes a heck of a lot more sense, only I can be on a beach in South Carolina in two hours, and there are plenty of hot chicks there, too.

And you don’t get harassed for being white.

;^)


46 posted on 05/25/2019 6:35:36 AM PDT by elcid1970 (No matter how bad things get, it can only be worse in New Jersey!)
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To: Vaquero

On his younger days hubby was a climber. I never got it either.


47 posted on 05/25/2019 6:36:18 AM PDT by sheana
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To: C19fan

The stupidity of the Everest high priced “unique” scam— is that it makes no difference if one is “experienced” or not- or even born genetically tolerant to height, cold and low oxygen (for example 16 Sherpas were all killed in the same ice fall in May of 2014- you never hear about them, cause it kills the marketing of this fraud).

At base camp, the problem is a blood chemistry absolute fact: the low partial pressure of oxygen has a immediate effect on blood oxygen saturation levels—one’s O2 Sat %. At sea level, blood oxygen saturation is generally 98–99% in healthy individuals, not over 50 y.o.. Base camp blood saturation measured shows between 85 and 87%. Blood samples have been take at the summit (from a presumably alive climber, not standing in line for two hours walk to the “top”) and showed very low blood oxygen saturation. A result of this is increased breathing rate, commonly 80–90 breaths per minute vs. a normal 20–30/min. So, adding in “climbing” one step every full minute, say- adds to the body’s demand for already limited oxygen, and exhaustion and resultant death (increased by cold exposure) can occur just by the rapid attempting to breathe. Training, and even blood cell “doping” will not improve this.

The entire exercise of “the climb” is self indulgent and at the same time “hey look at me, I’m somebody” in wealthy trust fund baby ... nobodies and notably adrenalin junkies who cannot quit. Nature takes care of all these deficits.

BTW there is well over 200 bodies still there out some 300 plus deaths on the mountain. And also— nobody stops to help a climber in trouble— repeatedly observed- they have to “get to the top” and will not stop. Reversion to animal deprivation group models— rat eat rat, dog eat dog. Disgusting and unnecessary.


48 posted on 05/25/2019 6:56:23 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Vaquero

I had read Into Thin Air by Krakauer and saw the movie version last night; the doctor was Beck Weathers, left for dead to freeze to death, he miraculously got up after sleeping overnite in crazed weather and walked to the camp! Krakauer didn’t like him bc he was conservative - never in my life has someone’s political view been the way I judge them and their character and dismiss them out of hand.


49 posted on 05/25/2019 6:58:05 AM PDT by laconic
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To: I want the USA back

They chose to put themselves in danger for the ability to say they had climbed Everest. They willingly accepted the consequences of a mistake.

Do not interfere with that.

The problem is that so many people have climbed Everest now, it is no longer a rare deed ....which makes me wonder why someone would attempt the mountain for the reason of saying they had...


50 posted on 05/25/2019 7:20:52 AM PDT by yetidog
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To: C19fan
Reminds me of high altitude trainings in the Air Force. I was required to go through it in preparation for doing some flight testing of some new gear. They put us in an altitude chamber, put oxygen masks on us, and started pumping the pressure down. Once we were at the equivalent pressure of thirty thousand feet, we were told to take off our masks, then write something on a clipboard they gave us. Once we were back down to sea level pressure, we tried to read the gibberish we'd written while deprived of oxygen. It was a good reminder that the brain doesn't function well under oxygen deprivation. If you need to take some action to survive, you probably won't be able to do it. Climbing a very high mountain without oxygen would be suicide.
51 posted on 05/25/2019 7:30:55 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Colonel (Retired) USAF.)
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To: C19fan

Glad to see them die. Sorrows for the Sherpa. They are slaves to the super-egos of Everest climbers.


52 posted on 05/25/2019 7:32:47 AM PDT by anton
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To: C19fan

We need to convince the muslems of the world that Mt Everest is the place to be, this is the thing to be doing right now. History and allah demand the muslems migrate to this mountain and worship. NOW!


53 posted on 05/25/2019 7:53:42 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
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To: central_va

“Well, there is a quick way down.”

Actually, I’m pretty sure it’s mostly the opposite. As I understand it, when somebody dies on the climb they’re most likely to have their soon-to-be frozen body moved over somewhere to the side of the trail where it’s left, pretty much permanently. Must be a real inspiration to the crowd on the way up.


54 posted on 05/25/2019 7:54:55 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: Gay State Conservative

Exactly! That’s the appropriate comment for this. People who climb Everest don’t deserve prayers. Eff em, they made their bed and now they lie in it. Everest should be closed permanently to climbing.


55 posted on 05/25/2019 7:57:51 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Isn't it funny that the very people who scream "My body, my choice" wants a say in your healthcare?)
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To: IronJack

Yeah but his surgery skills are a bit curtailed.
I’ve done foolish things when I was young. I survived them somehow. I still think climbing a mountain that can freeze off your appendages and does so to folks on a regular basis, is a hair brained idea. I can get higher than that on a 747.


56 posted on 05/25/2019 8:01:54 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: C19fan

I figure someone could create a powerful helicopter drone that could carry a helium tank and partially inflated balloon that could then be provided at fixed locations for climbers. The balloon, once filled, would have enough lift to lower a body, a badly injured person, or garbage to the ground, while being guided back down by the drone.

So the climbers would just need to transport the dead, injured, or garbage to one of these drop points.


57 posted on 05/25/2019 8:08:54 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yetidog
The problem is that so many people have climbed Everest now, it is no longer a rare deed

I wonder what becomes next. It won't be K2. It is too difficult to climb so weak, but rich, climbers can't be dragged up the mountain by Sherpa. Plus, K2 is another multitude of difficult to just get to as compared to Everest.

58 posted on 05/25/2019 8:10:01 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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“Nobody goes there anymore because it’s too crowded”


59 posted on 05/25/2019 8:11:20 AM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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It's not just amateurs ... Everest kills the pros too.

While there are lots of inexperienced climbers who make it to the summit and back, Everest is no joke for any climber. Things escalate fast on Everest and help is a long ways away. The greatest climber of this generation, Ueli Steck died on Everest two years ago while on a training climb. At those altitudes, any mistake can be your last.

60 posted on 05/25/2019 8:17:17 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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