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Seems to have worked for the glbtqxyzrp bunch.
1 posted on 05/16/2019 8:05:59 AM PDT by rktman
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This is a stupid article.


2 posted on 05/16/2019 8:08:10 AM PDT by mindburglar (Stupid is supposed to hurt. - Lurkers Granddad.)
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Why would we need to do something to destroy a government that is destroying itself?


3 posted on 05/16/2019 8:08:11 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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....says the BBC.


4 posted on 05/16/2019 8:08:34 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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This is why the anarchists claim they are justified in using violence then “threatened” by a differing opinion.


5 posted on 05/16/2019 8:08:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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I wonder if the statistics accurately account for countries like China, Cuba and NK.


7 posted on 05/16/2019 8:14:34 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-)
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Only if the Media are on the protesters' side.
Otherwise we won't even hear about them.

11 posted on 05/16/2019 8:20:37 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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The real underlying finding of the research is that protests with more than 3.5% of the public participating succeed in changing the government about half of the time.

In many cases that just means that the government has little support, and the transition is inevitable anyway. In cases where real tyrannical governments are in control even large portions of the public protesting may not make a difference.

Interestingly, the research suggests that the reason for non-violent protests succeeding more than violent attempts at changing the government is that the non-violent protests attract more participants, and therefore can reach the 3.5% threshold more easily.

The article also notes that the lack of access to weapons hinders the ability of violence based groups to succeed. That is probably at the root of the left's desire to disarm the population, since based on the researcher's findings a group which combined armed and non-violent protest that was supported by a few percent of the public would be able to change most governments.

19 posted on 05/16/2019 8:45:02 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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Article suffers from the basic "Post hoc, ergo propter hoc" Fallacy.

Specifically: Nonviolent protests were perhaps launched only when it was ALREADY obvious to the protesters that they would be successful (e.g., when the regime against they were protesting was already tottering).

Armed conflicts, in contrast, are perhaps initiated even though no such clarity or certainty exists (and their failure-rate might be correspondingly high).

A basic flaw in reasoning.

I also wouldn't be surprised if apples were being compared with oranges here: Conflicts in which one side attempts to employ peaceful protests (or views non-violence as a feasible alternative) are probably fundamentally different than conflicts in which at least one side views violence as the "best" option (or is totally exaspirated).

Regards,

20 posted on 05/16/2019 11:20:35 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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We let them turn us into a #mobacracy. It was us that compromised the uncompromising.


21 posted on 05/16/2019 11:34:03 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged for cash and control.)
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