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To: Chainmail

With all due respect ... after the Chris Kyle incident I wouldn’t want someone being treated for PTSD to be anywhere near me with a firearm.


2 posted on 04/29/2019 2:07:38 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.")
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To: Alberta's Child
Well, that's a nice "thank you for your service"...

I have no idea what role PTSD played in Chris Kyle's murder - but I would suspect that the killer had other issues besides that.

Of the hundreds of thousands of actual combat veterans - who have been decent, caring men who have always headed towards, not away from danger -that incident tars us all?

No offense, ma'am, but given your post (and some previous posts of yours) I wouldn't want to anywhere near you with a firearm, either.

6 posted on 04/29/2019 2:17:01 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Alberta's Child

That’s a pretty stupid comment.


13 posted on 04/29/2019 2:31:24 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Alberta's Child

If there was that great of a problem with PTSD millions of people would be dead.


16 posted on 04/29/2019 2:34:39 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“after the Chris Kyle incident I wouldn’t want someone being treated for PTSD to be anywhere near me with a firearm.”

That’s quite a slap in the face to the mass majority if veterans that go to war for their country and come back with such after effects. The vast majority of veterans with PTSD do not go out on shooting sprees. It would be interesting to know what the percentages are of vets that take it out on others with a gun as compared to other segments of our society.

Another slap in the face would be with people with an attitude similar to yours advocating for removing 2A rights to vets with PTSD. Imagine, suffering the horrors of war, living through it, and coming home and having no self defense or hunting rights.

PTSD does not affect us all. Many Viet Vets were just 18 when they served. My understanding is the human brain is not totally wired until age 25. With this in mind the constant fear of death, having to kill for ones country and watching others get blown to hell will really raise hell with a kids mind. It is not their fault some wind up with PTSD. They should not be shunned in the 2A department or treated as nut cases. For God’s sake, they have saved the country more than once.

Vets of our more recent wars also fit the above scenario.

I am combat vet, and coming home watching the news and Hollywood vilify Viet Vets is really no different in the discrimination department than when Blacks were made to go to the back of the bus.


18 posted on 04/29/2019 2:37:18 PM PDT by redfreedom
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To: Alberta's Child
With all due respect ... after the Chris Kyle incident I wouldn’t want someone being treated for PTSD to be anywhere near me with a firearm.

I understand the sentiment, but in most respects, people with PTSD are like everyone else. Some of them are good people, some aren't. I wouldn't use PTSD as a measure of the probability of shooting up a place. Every possibility the guy carried that with him for a long time.

19 posted on 04/29/2019 2:38:43 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: Alberta's Child

Dude, educate yourself.

After many years in the mental health profession, the OP is correct. The human organism becomes overwhelmed with unmanageable stressors from which it cannot escape. The post traumatic stress response is completely natural and normal.

I have long objected to the use of the term “Disorder” as have many others. The proper definition would be Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome.

To anyone struggling with this, please know that help really is available. Research has been progressing at a supersonic clip, due in no small part to rapid advances in brain studies, including brain biochemistry. We know now that overwhelming trauma causes massive biochemical changes throughout the brain and body.

Please, do not suffer alone. Reach out.


28 posted on 04/29/2019 3:05:11 PM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: Alberta's Child
With all due respect ... after the Chris Kyle incident I wouldn’t want someone being treated for PTSD to be anywhere near me with a firearm.

Chris Kyle suffered from PTSD also.........and he's a hero in your eyes. Go figure.......

31 posted on 04/29/2019 3:10:56 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (uizzzp)
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To: Alberta's Child

Even morally deficient people can get PTSD. I deal with people who have PTSD, they may hurt themselves to deal with the pain but they don’t want to hurt you unless there is something else going on.


54 posted on 04/29/2019 4:08:53 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: Alberta's Child

The vast majority of PTSD suffers are not dangerous to anyone but themselves.

However, there is a very small number that are outwardly dangerous.

The Military Docs and the VA have very good tools to discern one class from the other. And it’s very, very rare that one slips through the cracks.

So, if you don’t want somebody with PTSD near you with a gun, you’ve eliminated about 50% of all combat vets.

Feeling safe now?


56 posted on 04/29/2019 4:18:21 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Alberta's Child

Stop letting Hollywood shape your perception of reality.


74 posted on 04/29/2019 5:25:44 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: Alberta's Child

Unless you actually know more than we do about the “extra issues” the guy had, and actually know some folks with PTSD, then your opinion is uninformed.


87 posted on 04/30/2019 3:56:57 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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