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"Avengers: Endgame" (Thoughts with no spoilers)
self | 4/29/2019 | LS

Posted on 04/29/2019 7:08:43 AM PDT by LS

I promise, I won't give away any details or main plot twists. My take on the movie? Meh.

As a wrapup, it definitely did the job, tying up---for good or bad---virtually all of the character lines.

As an action pic it was ok. There was as much if not more humor in this than others. Something about it just didn't work for me.

Again---and this is predictable so I'm not giving anything away---at the end of "Infinity Wars," the "SNAP" caused 1/2 of the universe to disappear. The film begins years later as the Avengers, like everyone else, is trying to cope with the loss of loved ones.

Part 1 is the Avengers getting the will and the plan to combat the "SNAP."

Part 2 is them achieving the means.

Part 3 is the expected battle.

Josh Brolin stole "Infinity Wars" by being somewhat altruistic. Like any good totalitarian dictator, he can fix all problems if he has infinite power. His sadness and (apparently genuine) despondency over the burden of doing this came through and drove the character. That largely disappears in "Endgame," where he becomes what all dictators are, impetuous, unchecked, lacking any moral compass save his own.

One good device the plot uses is to divide up the very large heroic cast into several smaller teams, which is always good to watch different heroes interact with each other. The addition of "Captain Marvel" is handled well.

Just one note on the final battle: It's as if Thanos all of a sudden forgets he has the stones (literally) especially space and time and power. He's like Muhammad Ali drawn into the middle of the ring to trade punches with George Foreman. Ain't a winning strategy.

Despite the attempts to make Robert Downy, Jr. the star, Chris Hemsworth again emerges as the most likeable character. Not nearly as much of the "Guardians" as I'd like.

I will spoil this one minor scene because it shows the current makeup of Hollywood: during the first act when all are depressed, repressed, suppressed, oppressed, sittin' on the Group W. bench (as Arlo Guthrie used to sing), Tony Stark is leading a therapy group. One guy says, "I wasn't able to date for 2 years. I finally went on a date." Stark: "What did you talk about?" Him: "Well, we talked about the disappearances, then HE started to cry, then . . . ." Sigh.

So the insertion of homosexuality into a scene were it was absolutely not necessary whatsoever is just one more reminder that Hollywood's homosecual community can inject gay-ism into a rock.


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1 posted on 04/29/2019 7:08:43 AM PDT by LS
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To: LS

How is this movie (the entire genre) so popular? What does it speak to that resonates with some many? Or is it just the effects that titillate people’s buttons?


2 posted on 04/29/2019 7:10:56 AM PDT by fwdude (Think about it: Blacks were made slaves in Africa, but were made free men in America.)
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To: LS

Since I’ll never watch it, I could use some spoilers. The last movie ruined it. He became god in the end, so game over. There is no more story to tell without using pretzel logic.


3 posted on 04/29/2019 7:12:02 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: LS

Might as well call it “Bruce Almighty: The sequel”


4 posted on 04/29/2019 7:13:17 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: fwdude

It’s probably a favorite of MGTOW’s.


5 posted on 04/29/2019 7:15:52 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: LS

It’s as if Thanos all of a sudden forgets he has the stones (literally) especially space and time and power.


And...there’s the pretzel logic.


6 posted on 04/29/2019 7:16:45 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: LS

Let me ask you this: Would this story be as powerful without CGI?


7 posted on 04/29/2019 7:18:45 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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Couldn’t be done.

Merely the superpowers of the heroes need it. And I think this one, far more than either “Infinity Wars” or “Black Panther,” restrained its use of CGI. That was probably the best feature. It’s a VERY character driven story.


8 posted on 04/29/2019 7:19:56 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS
It’s a VERY character driven story.

Good to know. My grandchildren will be dragging me to this.

9 posted on 04/29/2019 7:21:32 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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To: LS
One good device the plot uses is to divide up the very large heroic cast into several smaller teams, which is always good to watch different heroes interact with each other.

Justice League comics used that a lot. Often, you get odd combinations (e.g. Superman and Green Arrow).
10 posted on 04/29/2019 7:24:16 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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I have to admit I like the movies well enough but am not some kind of huge fan boy of the franchise, I've watched about 1/2 of the movies in the series so I'm not as emotionally invested as some, nor do I really know all the back stories of all the various characters (never seen any of the Guardians of the Galaxy or Antman movies for instance.)

That being said, while I went with my kids this weekend and enjoyed Endgame well enough, there was really no "wow" moment that blew me away plot wise. I think the plot pretty much resolved itself the way most had predicted. For me the most unexpected moment came about 15 minutes into the movie, without giving any spoilers let me just say, "Huh? It was that easy?"

11 posted on 04/29/2019 7:25:04 AM PDT by apillar
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To: LS

The film begins years later as the Avengers, like everyone else, is trying to cope with the loss of loved ones.

That’s already a spoiler right there.

I did see the movie, and I’m bookmarking this thread for later, after a month or so I might join the discussion.

I do have some thoughts on this movie but anything meaningful must contain spoilers.


12 posted on 04/29/2019 7:26:35 AM PDT by samtheman (To steal an election, who do you collude with? Russians in Russia or Mexicans in California?)
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To: cuban leaf

Ant-Man and the Wasp is the best Marvel movie of the last two years. Lots of action, a good comedic touch, twist at the end, Michael Pena and Walton Goggins.


13 posted on 04/29/2019 7:29:07 AM PDT by steve8714
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I saw this movie and I was whelmed. Only Downey and Hemsworth are secure enough to laugh at themselves.


14 posted on 04/29/2019 7:31:19 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: LS

I heard that Dr. Strange’s powers played a significant role in the picture.


15 posted on 04/29/2019 7:31:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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I’ve been watching it in 20 minute chunks. I am forcing myself to finish it. Which will give you a hint at how much I’m enjoying it. (I’m not)

I did the same thing with Black Panther. It sucked from beginning to end, but with some good CGI.


16 posted on 04/29/2019 7:31:55 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: LS

Honesty..

Endgame is a solid...

Meh.


17 posted on 04/29/2019 7:32:07 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Jeff Chandler

Needs to be seen large screen, and not too close.


18 posted on 04/29/2019 7:32:15 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: LS

man...Did you even see the movie? It wasn’t Tony stark in the group therapy session it was Captain America.

Tony Stark is the Iron Man.

The scene fits because Captain America already had to deal with the “loss of everyone he loved” trope in his back story.


19 posted on 04/29/2019 7:32:25 AM PDT by Bayard
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Yeah, sorry, Evans.

I get the group therapy. I did not like the gratuitous insertion of the homosexual theme.

Now, any other corrections?


20 posted on 04/29/2019 7:34:26 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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