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To: CondoleezzaProtege

This part is incorrect.

“Paine would not return to the United States until nearly a decade later, after Jefferson was elected president and the Republican Party was in ascendancy.”

The Republican Party was formed in the 1850s...no?


2 posted on 04/16/2019 12:14:43 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: reed13k

Right...The Republicans replaced the Whigs, IIRC.


5 posted on 04/16/2019 12:20:46 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: Can't control their emotions. Can't control their actions. Deny them control of anything.)
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To: reed13k

I think they meant the whigs. Jefferson was a Democrat.


9 posted on 04/16/2019 12:26:37 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If we get Medicare for all, will we have to show IDs for service? Why?)
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To: reed13k
"The Republican Party was formed in the 1850s...no?"

The party of Jefferson and Madison was called the Democrat Republican party.
10 posted on 04/16/2019 12:27:30 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: reed13k
He is referring to the Democrat-Republican party of Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, formed in 1792 and peaked in power from 1801 to 1825 (roughly Jefferson's and Madison's administrations).

-PJ

11 posted on 04/16/2019 12:29:15 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: reed13k; Vermont Lt; rlmorel
I'm thinking that when the author uses "Republican" in this context and this era, he's talking about the "Democratic Republicans."

Which would correspond to neither of the major parties in Lincoln's time nor in ours.

12 posted on 04/16/2019 12:32:54 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Department of Redundancy Department.)
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To: reed13k

Yes, you are correct...the Republican Party came much later as a result of the abolitionist movement within the Whigs.

There was a Democratic-Republican Party early on, though:

” The Democratic-Republican Party was the political party organized by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison in 1791-93. It stood in opposition to the Federalist Party and controlled the Presidency and Congress, and most states, from 1801 to 1824, during the First Party System.” — www.definitions.net/definition/democratic-republican%20party


13 posted on 04/16/2019 12:33:39 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: reed13k

Jefferson’s party which we know today as the Democrat-Republican was often just called the Republican party. (Modern historians call it Democrat-Republican I doubt if they used the hyphenated moniker!) After Jackson it was pretty much the Democrat party, the use of the word Republican as a party label didn’t occur until a coalition of Free Soilers, Northern Whigs, & others picked up the name and formed the Republicans in Ripon Wisconsin roughly 1856.

Party names\labels come and go but its always the Federalist vs non-Federalist argument. How much central government is enough, how much is too much!


15 posted on 04/16/2019 12:40:59 PM PDT by Reily
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To: reed13k

Jefferson’s Democratic-Republicans later had their name shortened to Democratic, the forerunners of today’s Democrats. The Republican name remained unused until the Republican Party was created as an abolitionist party in 1854.


16 posted on 04/16/2019 12:41:12 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: reed13k

I think they are referring to the Democratic-Republican Party, which later became the Democrat Party. The other party at the time of Jefferson was the Federalist Party.


36 posted on 04/16/2019 2:26:31 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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