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VANITY - Best Comprehensive Book on the Vietnam War
3/29/2019 | Me

Posted on 03/29/2019 7:07:17 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012

In light of Vietnam War Vets' Day, I am looking for a good book on the overall history of the Vietnam War.

I'm not looking for something written based on one author's experience or perspective... and CERTAINLY not by any left wing anti-war liberal ex-hippie.

Again, something that captures the overall history... the events preceding the war, the war itself, and the resulting aftermath.

Easy to read, not lengthy with unnecessary descriptions.

So... any recommendations based on my limiting criteria? :-)

Thanks!!


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1 posted on 03/29/2019 7:07:17 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

I’d have to dig deep...anything that
has to do with media of the era can be crossed of your list...example Cronkite.


2 posted on 03/29/2019 7:15:53 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73....8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

You may consider military sites...


3 posted on 03/29/2019 7:17:20 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73....8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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Just watch John Wayne’s movie “The Green Berets”. A little corny by today’s standards, but there is no other movie that sums it up better.


4 posted on 03/29/2019 7:18:47 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
I'm a life-long amateur historian of the war...my father flew for the US Navy's Seawolves squadron in 1969-70, and I've read a ton of material on the war and even took a whole semester course on it in college. I'm pretty sure this was our textbook, but it's been quite a few years...

Vietnam: A History, by Stanley Karnow.

5 posted on 03/29/2019 7:26:28 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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VIETNAM: A HISTORY. THE FIRST COMPLETE ACCOUNT OF VIETNAM AT WAR by Stanley Karnow

Unrelated but Richards Evans trilogy of Germany and WWII is the most comprehensive series I’ve ever read. In-depth doesn’t accurately describe it.


6 posted on 03/29/2019 7:27:08 AM PDT by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Wikipedia - Vietnam: A Television History, by Stanley Karnow

I remember watching this in 1983 and thought it was very good, especially regarding the history before the U.S. entered the war. I thought it was far superior to Ken Burn's 2018 PBS mini-series.

"Vietnam: A Television History" (1983) is a 13-part American documentary and television mini-series about the Vietnam War (1955-1975) from the perspective of the United States. It was produced for public television by WGBH-TV in Boston, and it was originally broadcast on PBS between October 4 and December 20, 1983.

Later, it was rebroadcast—–as part of the PBS series American Experience—from May 26 to July 28, 1997. However, only 11 of the 13 original episodes were rebroadcast. Episodes 2 and 13 were dropped.

It was the most successful documentary produced by PBS up to the time of initial broadcast. Nearly 9% of American households tuned in to watch the initial episode, and an average of 9.7 million viewers watched each of the 13 episodes. A rebroadcast in the summer of 1984 garnered roughly a 4% share in the five largest U.S. television markets.

The origins of the series reach back to 1977 when filmmaker Richard Ellison and foreign correspondent Stanley Karnow discussed the project. The latter had been a journalist in Paris during the 1950s and a reporter in French Indochina since 1959. Karnow was Chief Correspondent in the series and his tie-in book, Vietnam: A History (1983), became a best-seller.

When PBS elected to rebroadcast Vietnam: A Television History (originally broadcast in 1983) as part of its American Experience series in 1997, a re-edited version some 120 minutes shorter (a total of 660 minutes, as opposed to 780 minutes) was used. this version excluded entirely Episodes 2 ("The First Vietnam War") and 13 ("Legacies") of the original broadcast.

The editing was reportedly undertaken to remove outdated information and to create a more cohesive story for viewers. However, some viewers who remembered the original 13-episode version derogated the changes as "censorship": they believed that they could detect a "corrective" treatment of the material that involved cutting out politically objectionable scenes; an interview of a French colonel discussing the end of the siege at Dien Bien Phu and referring to the Viet Minh as "Red Termites"; an interview of a man recalling a popular expression of that time and place in which the native plantation workers were termed "fertilizer" because so many died and were buried beneath the trees among which they toiled; and material depicting the British decision to rearm defeated Japanese soldiers at the end of World War II to use them against the Vietnamese. No evidence was presented that PBS executives edited the series for political purposes.

Additionally, the use of the shortened 1997 broadcast version for the 2004 DVD release of the series–rather than the entire, original 1983 version–has not been explained.

7 posted on 03/29/2019 7:45:11 AM PDT by MacNaughton
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Historian Max Hastings as a new book out.

It’s titled “Viet Nam, Epic Tragedy 1945-1975.”


8 posted on 03/29/2019 7:52:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
I'd be interested in seeing a decent discussion myself - But I haven't seen any film or documentary or book that comes close.

I served in the Marines in combat there for 17 months. Everything I've seen about the war has been a cartoon by folks who have an agenda. All of the movies have been crap and the TV documentaries heavily skewed against us.

9 posted on 03/29/2019 7:54:07 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Hastings is a Brit jerk; he already made is prejudices against our war well known before he came out with this book.


10 posted on 03/29/2019 7:55:30 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Stanley Karnow (IIIC it’s called the “ten thousand day war”), but if not both Karnow & that one are ok.


11 posted on 03/29/2019 7:56:12 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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He’s a Limey, for sure.
I’ve read several of his previous works and found them excellent.


12 posted on 03/29/2019 7:56:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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If you have a minute — five minutes, to be exact — pop over to Youtube and watch Bruce Herschensohn’s piece on Vietnam for PragerU.


13 posted on 03/29/2019 7:59:41 AM PDT by Blurb2350
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Like I said, he has already made his antagonism against our war in Vietnam well known.

Propaganda- even when “well written” is still propaganda.


14 posted on 03/29/2019 8:11:27 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

Would you agree that “our war” was a continuation of the French war ?


15 posted on 03/29/2019 8:15:05 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Blurb2350

Agree...Watch the video on YouTube or Vimeo...

Then buy his book (used on Amazon for a couple bucks):

https://www.amazon.com/American-Amnesia-Congress-Surrenders-Cambodia/dp/0825306329...

A very readable account of how the Democrat majority House and Senate of the 94th Congress betrayed our South Vietnamese allies and sold out the US military...

Also agree re Stanley Karnow’s Vietbam, A History...

https://www.amazon.com/Vietnam-History-Stanley-Karnow/dp/0140265473


16 posted on 03/29/2019 8:16:38 AM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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Have you read Neil Sheehan’s “Bright Shining Lie” ?


17 posted on 03/29/2019 8:20:21 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

No.

When the French lost their colonial war, a vacuum was created. The Soviets and the Chinese openly and vigorously supported the murderous ambitions of Ho Chi Minh with arms, training, and advisors.

Our allies and the critical sea ways around them were at stake.

By the time we did get our own forces involved, the enemy had a massive terror campaign in progress and at least two NVA divisions in the south

We had no choice. It was never about territory or colonies or any affection for French.


18 posted on 03/29/2019 8:37:01 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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Both LBJ and Nixon lost the war
Especially Nixon
After pissing around for over 4 years he instituted unlimited bombing and mined Haiphong Harbor
NVietnam was on its knees and agreed to a peace treaty-released our POWs and pulled out of the south

when they violated the treaty he was neutered by Watergate and did nothing

HOWEVER
He could have taken that same action on FEB 1 1969 when the country was still behind the war--saved countless lives and would have had over 4 years to consolidate
19 posted on 03/29/2019 9:43:43 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Fire in the Lake - Frances Fitzgerald


20 posted on 03/29/2019 10:19:45 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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