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To: BroJoeK
Of course, you're still talking about Democrats, North & South, who ruled NY & DC from 1801 until secession in 1861.

Your attempts to constantly point out the irrelevant claim that Democrats are behind all this is deliberate noise.

Urban. Liberal. Wealthy. Race Obsessed people in New York, Massachusetts, Chicago, Washington DC, who like to tax and spend, who are big proponents of organized labor, favor protectionism, love government subsidies to industries, and live in all the areas that are liberal bastions today, are nowadays known as "Democrats." In 1860, they called themselves "Republicans."

Same policies. Same geographical areas. Descended from the same groups of people. Still pushing their race hustle, and big government solutions.

A more accurate delineations is "Hamiltonians" and "Jeffersonians."

503 posted on 04/11/2019 7:09:27 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
DiogenesLamp: "Your attempts to constantly point out the irrelevant claim that Democrats are behind all this is deliberate noise."

Exactly wrong -- it's your efforts to obscure the fact that your own people, Southern Democrats ruled Washington DC in alliance with Northern Democrats, those "Northeastern power brokers" in New York, ruled basically from 1801 until secession in 1861 -- denying it is your deliberate deception here.

DiogenesLamp: "Urban. Liberal. Wealthy. Race Obsessed people in New York..."

Democrats in 1860, Democrats tiday.
In 1860 they allied with Southern slaveholding Democrats, today they ally with Left Coast Democrats.

But it's still just Democrats, it's always been Democrats.
Republicans were always a quite different group of people.

528 posted on 04/11/2019 9:38:35 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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