[DiogenesLamp]

Contrary to what DiogenesLamp would have us believe, the Declaration of Independence never says anybody, anywhere, any time and for any reasons, or for no particular reasons, has an unlimited right to declare independence which must then be instantly granted.

First of all, it is a right. Rights are granted by God, and the permission of men is not required to assert a right. Rights are not granted by men.

Second of all, the declaration does indeed say that when a government no longer has "consent of the governed", the people have a right to cast it off and create a new one that better suits them.

It does say this should not be done for light and transient reasons, but "should" is a suggestion, not a command.

[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: "First of all, it is a right. Rights are granted by God, and the permission of men is not required to assert a right. Rights are not granted by men."

Sure, and your Marxist pal, Bernie Sanders, tells us now that "medicare for all" is also a "right", but no Founder ever said that either.
So you & Bernie can claim whatever "rights" you wish, after all, as Democrats, that's sort of your job isn't it?
Forever devising new "rights" to task our Founders' constitution with?

DiogenesLamp: "Second of all, the declaration does indeed say that when a government no longer has "consent of the governed", the people have a right to cast it off and create a new one that better suits them. "

Of course that's not what it says, and you well know it.
It's just repeating the Big Lie you're here to sell.

In fact our Founders defined a very precise situation of necessity caused by "a long train of abuses and usurpations" showing "a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism", then "it is their right, it is their duty..."

There was nothing "at pleasure" or "at will" about the Declaration of Independence.

DiogenesLamp: "It does say this should not be done for light and transient reasons, but "should" is a suggestion, not a command."

Irrelevant because first, that statement does not define the conditions of necessity which drive the Declaration.
And second, you have "translated" their "should not" to mean "should", which is a total misreading of Founders' intentions.