Posted on 03/26/2019 9:33:56 AM PDT by BenLurkin
Jupiter … A Celestial Immigrant Success Story
A small, Earth-size planet, seeking a better life in the warmer environment close to the Sun, makes a dangerous trek toward the center of the Solar System… Along the arduous journey, it encounters & assists challenged Trojan asteroids, and after many millennia, becomes the important, contributing major planet that we know today.
Me! 845,214! I just stepped on the last ringed black spotted yellow tiger beetle!
Jupiter’s diameter is 11 times that of earth’s and its mass is 317 times that of the earth. How did it go from being an earth-sized planet to being a gas giant? I don’t think swallowing asteroids would account for that.
Jupiter's distance to Earth is just close enough for it to act as Earth's big brother and absorb comets and such into it's massive gravity well, preventing most of them from going to Earth and giving us frequent life extermination events (think asteroid wiping out the dinosaurs happening a lot). But if Jupiter was too close it's massive gravity well would cause too much tectonic activity on Earth. So it has to be just the right distance away.
This reminds us that Jupiter's distance from Earth is fairly temporary. Jupiter's goldilocks distance from Earth is occurring and just the right time frame for other things on Earth and with the sun that provide a narrow window of time for advanced life on Earth. (i.e. the sun's current involatile state). What a coincidence? No. What a Creator!
If it keeps coming it’s going to collect one impressive set of asteroids. The main asteroid belt starts about 4/5 of the way to Jupiter and ends just beyond the orbit of Mars (or 2/5 of the way). In between is where all the larger asteroids are located. The Trojans are generally just small asteroids of maybe 10-20 km diameter, but there are hundreds in the main belt larger than 200 km and some that are 500-1000 km wide.
Some have suggested that the asteroids are the debris of a planet that used to orbit in that vicinity, perhaps it blew up when Jupiter’s powerful gravitational forces got close enough to destabilize its orbit.
There are a few asteroids that Jupiter missed along the way, one of fairly large size called Chiron has a stable orbit between Saturn and Uranus, sometimes approaching the Sun a little closer than Saturn’s orbit, but it hasn’t been pulled anywhere near Jupiter’s present orbit.
So if Jupiter did this early in its existence, I wonder what Saturn, Uranus and Neptune were doing at that time, following behind or already where they are now. Saturn is now twice as far from the Sun as Jupiter and Uranus about four times, Neptune about six times as far.
definite warming scenario where is gore on this
Adolescent planets just need a little rumspringa before they settle down into their permanent orbits!
I don’t think swallowing asteroids would account for that.
What I’m don’t understand is, if Hot Jupiters are the norm, and Jupiter presently is too far out to be ‘hot,’ did it migrate in and then stop? Why would it stop?
Maybe, and I’d have to run some simulations to determine, maybe Jupiter slowed down to gawk at the collision of whatever it was that knocked Uranus on its ass. By not paying attention to where it was going, Jupiter then slammed into ‘traffic cone’ planetesimals , leaving behind the asteroid belt and some hub caps.
But science is settled, no?
rumspringa
Sow their wild oats so to speak? The sun is about half its total age, with Jupiter forming at about the same time. If that is comparable to a normal human lifespan of about 80 years, then Jupiter’s rumble tumble days only numbered 2.
Electric Universe. Jupiter and the other giants were the original planets (in keeping with other solar system configurations) - all other present day planets were moons of Saturn, except Venus which was matter expelled by Jupiter.
Some catastrophic discharge pushed the larger planets out and mars and earth and possibly mercury were torn away.
The presented theory in the article does not explain what mechanism caused the large planets to move in, when centrifugal force says they should move out.
By Jupiter ping!
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Paging Dr. Velikovsky....
It is spelled: Scientists.
And I bet you think “Populat” Mechanics is wrong too.
Mea culpa. I plead Chemo Brain.
What crappy writing. Trojan asteroid don’t orbit at a distance in front or behind they orbit at a distance equal to the distance from the planet to the sun. The number of asteroids in either location is entirely coincidental. Look up LaGrange Points in Wikipedia. Chances are good that Jupiter’s Trojan asteroids are of the same origin as the asteroids in the Asteroid Belt.
I doubt anyone who has any knowledge of astronomy in general considers our solar system to be weird. That is a big internet word that is way overused and detracts from any intelligent discussion. Other solar systems with their close gas giants have been discovered by the orbital properties of their systems and are not necessarily the most common or abundant just the most easily found.
The whole article is about a simulation which is the same thing as a computer game and a simulation is not a science experiment and doesn’t prove reality. Any simulation is only as good as the level of detail at its basis.
“What crappy writing”
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