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THIS DAY IN BASEBALL HISTORY: CEPEDA FOR TORRE
Powerline ^ | 18 Mar 2019 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 03/18/2019 7:40:45 AM PDT by Rummyfan

The deal that brought Orlando Cepeda from San Francisco to St. Louis in 1966 was probably the second most consequential baseball trade of the 1960s, behind only the one that brought the late Frank Robinson to Baltimore. The Cardinals won the World Series in 1967 and Cepeda was NL MVP. In 1968, St. Louis repeated as NL champs.

But on March 17, 1969, St. Louis dealt Cepeda to the Atlanta Braves for Joe Torre.

The trade caught the baseball world by surprise. In the days leading up March 17, there was no mention in the St. Louis Post Dispatch of the possibility of this deal or, indeed, of the Cardinals trading Cepeda.

Torre had been on the trading block for a while. The three-time all star (at this point in his career) had fallen completely out of favor with Paul Richards, general manager of the Braves. Torre had experienced a down year in 1968 (even after taking into account baseball’s depressed offensive stats that season). Richards reportedly wanted to cut his salary by the maximum amount allowable. Torre refused to report to spring training. The two were fighting it out in the press.

Torre was the Braves player representative, and a very active one. This might well have been a major point against him as far as Richards was concerned.

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1 posted on 03/18/2019 7:40:45 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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I remember Torre with the Mets as a player and manager during the mid/late 70s. Those were dark days.


2 posted on 03/18/2019 7:46:18 AM PDT by C19fan
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I remember Torre with the Mets as a player and manager during the mid/late 70s. Those were dark days.

The Mets made one trip to The Series in the 70s... 1972?

3 posted on 03/18/2019 7:56:57 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Rummyfan

I believe that was 1973. Joe Torre with the Mets hit into four double plays in one game. That’s not easy to do.


4 posted on 03/18/2019 8:01:25 AM PDT by Fair Paul
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Joe Torre with the Mets hit into four double plays in one game. That’s not easy to do.

LOL! A dubious accomplishment.

5 posted on 03/18/2019 8:02:55 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Rummyfan

Chicago Cubs traded Lou Brock to St. Louis for pitcher Ernie Broglio in 1964...


6 posted on 03/18/2019 8:14:13 AM PDT by dakine
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To: Rummyfan

Bookmark


7 posted on 03/18/2019 8:21:53 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Rummyfan

That was in 1973 when the team went 82-79 somehow winning the NL East.


8 posted on 03/18/2019 8:37:27 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: dakine

Not sure how that doesn’t rank as number one for the 60s.


9 posted on 03/18/2019 8:50:11 AM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: dakine
Chicago Cubs traded Lou Brock to St. Louis for pitcher Ernie Broglio in 1964
My little league glove back then was an Ernie Broglio signature model. I can't recall the manufacturer.
10 posted on 03/18/2019 8:54:44 AM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, rescue a pit bull.)
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To: Rummyfan
The deal that brought Orlando Cepeda from San Francisco to St. Louis in 1966 was probably the second most consequential baseball trade of the 1960s, behind only the one that brought the late Frank Robinson to Baltimore.

The Lou Brock deal was right up there, too.

And don't get Yankee fans started. While they may not have been as consequential as any of those three, the Yankees made a lot of "name" deals in the 1960s and most of them were bad ones.

11 posted on 03/18/2019 8:59:34 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: a little elbow grease; All

I remember Joe when he broke in as a chubby catcher. Before that, he was a terror of the Parade Grounds in Brooklyn. But I digress...


12 posted on 03/18/2019 8:59:43 AM PDT by JonPreston (If you think we're treated badly now wait untill we're disarmed.)
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To: C19fan

Torre played for eh Braves, Cardinals, and Mets. Before George Steinbrenner picked him up, he had manged the Mets, Cardinals, and Braves. The same three teams, in reverse order.

He was the only person to be in uniform on the winning side in the first and last games at Fulton County Stadium.

He’s also one of four people to have managed the Yankees and the Mets. Can you name the other three? (To are pretty easy. One is a bit more obscure.)


13 posted on 03/18/2019 9:03:11 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: Rummyfan

My grandfather, as my dad has handed down the story, was once staring at Torre in the in deck circle from his seats which were right down near the field.....talking about 1st or 2nd row between dugout and home plate.

Torre notices tramps staring at him and ask “what are you looking at” (or similar)

Gramps, caught in a moment of thought, replies “you are one ugly son if a bitch.”


14 posted on 03/18/2019 9:04:35 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (We need a consent decree for the FBI like Obama was slapping on all those police agencies.)
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To: dakine

There were a couple of throw-ins in that deal. It occurred on June 15, 1964, then the trade deadline. The Cubs traded Lou Brock, Jack Spring and Paul Toth to the St. Louis Cardinals for Ernie Broglio, Doug Clemens and Bobby Shantz.


15 posted on 03/18/2019 9:14:00 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: C19fan

And then beating a 100-win Reds team in the NLCS.

Remember the Harrelson-Rose dustup?


16 posted on 03/18/2019 9:15:14 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: Rummyfan
. . . probably the second most consequential baseball trade of the 1960s, behind only the one that brought the late Frank Robinson to Baltimore.

Probably not. Lou Brock for Ernie Borgilo overshadowed it.

The Braves GM didn't like Joe Torre because he seemed afraid of the pitches. He called him Chicken Catcher Torre behind his back.

The Cardinals, OTOH, had a very capable catcher in Tim McCarver and turned Torre into a dandy first baseman with occasional back-up catching duties.

17 posted on 03/18/2019 9:20:20 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Rummyfan
. . . probably the second most consequential baseball trade of the 1960s, behind only the one that brought the late Frank Robinson to Baltimore.

Probably not. Lou Brock for Ernie Borgilo overshadowed it.

The Braves GM didn't like Joe Torre because he seemed afraid of the pitches. He called him Chicken Catcher Torre behind his back.

The Cardinals, OTOH, had a very capable catcher in Tim McCarver and turned Torre into a dandy first baseman with occasional back-up catching duties.

18 posted on 03/18/2019 9:20:31 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: TBP

Yogi Berra, Casey Stengel and Dallas Green.


19 posted on 03/18/2019 10:16:17 AM PDT by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Lol...that sounds like a story Joe Torre might tell as well.


20 posted on 03/18/2019 11:24:43 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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