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Four New DNA Letters Double Life’s Alphabet
Scientific American ^ | February 22, 2019 | Matthew Warren, Nature magazine

Posted on 02/27/2019 5:29:17 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Something like this was reported a couple of years back, with the addition of two unnatural groups that base-paired reasonably specifically, to give a total of six “letters” to the genetic alphabet. Don’t know if much of anything practical was done with it; it was largely an experimental demonstration of a theoretical concept.


21 posted on 02/27/2019 5:58:06 PM PST by Stosh
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ll stick with the garlic, cilantro, anise, and thyme.


22 posted on 02/27/2019 6:01:11 PM PST by fruser1
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To: Billthedrill

I suspect that they’ll insinuate them into some innocent bacteria, coopting their protein-building machinery, see what pops out, etc.


23 posted on 02/27/2019 6:03:49 PM PST by rightwingcrazy (,)
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To: LukeL

The protein is already folding while more amino acids are being added. So it’s not the same level of randomness as if you had the entire string ready and just let it go.


24 posted on 02/27/2019 6:17:57 PM PST by Styria
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To: Billthedrill

>That is, do they make proteins?

Probably, but they wouldn’t necessarily use the installed base of proteins that has been built up over billions of years of trial and error.

Use the same analogy as to why the width of railroads tracks is what it is.


25 posted on 02/27/2019 6:21:19 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Normally, as a pair of DNA strands twist around each other in a double helix, the chemicals on each strand pair up: A bonds to T, and C bonds with G.

So far so good.

For a long time, scientists have tried to add more pairs...

That's what got us into this mess.

26 posted on 02/27/2019 6:21:35 PM PST by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why do I hear "Don't Fear the Reaper" in the background?

27 posted on 02/27/2019 6:25:55 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Leave the job, leave the clearance. It should be the same rule for the Swamp as for everyone else.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

RSTLNE


28 posted on 02/27/2019 6:31:15 PM PST by moovova
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“The study implies that there is nothing particularly “magic” or special about those four chemicals that evolved on Earth”

Right, OK. So you COPIED an architecture from another design and can now claim the design is not particularly “magic”.

Yet you walk around the room, doing your research ... running on those boring old chemicals.


29 posted on 02/27/2019 6:39:00 PM PST by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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To: faithhopecharity

No, Nancy would be a retrograde DNA structure, missing a few links along the chain.


30 posted on 02/27/2019 6:46:08 PM PST by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: Stosh

Well, it’s actually seven letters. RNA has a U (uracil) in place of the T (thiamine).


31 posted on 02/27/2019 6:59:19 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Modern feminism: ALL MEN BAD!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Kinda dumb news. Uracil also occurs in nature.


32 posted on 02/27/2019 7:12:13 PM PST by dangus
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To: grey_whiskers

I doubt that they would form any codons at all, since the tRNAs bind to specific codons. They could bind tRNAs, I suppose, if they had the same H bond patterns on their edges as natural DNA bases. But then, why would one need non-naturally occurring bases?

If you wanted to create a whole genetic system—the base pairs, tRNAs that recognize the triplets, enzymes to charge the tRNAs with novel amino acids—I suppose that is possible as an academic exercise. Not sure how useful it would be.


33 posted on 02/27/2019 7:26:29 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

To paraphrase Taylor Swift, “cause we don’t know what we don’t know...’


34 posted on 02/27/2019 7:28:45 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That’s going to play hell with the movie “GATTACA”.


35 posted on 02/27/2019 7:32:20 PM PST by hoagy62 (America Supreme!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
By adjusting these holes and prongs, the team has come up with several new pairs of bases, including a pair named S and B, and another called P and Z2.

______

So what will they call Gattaca II?

And will anybody be able to pronounce it?

36 posted on 02/27/2019 7:34:30 PM PST by x
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To: Fungi

“synthetic” may simply mean “unrecognized at the time”.

Artificial is not necessarily a synonym...


37 posted on 02/27/2019 7:36:19 PM PST by MortMan (Satan was merely the FIRST politician who pretended to speak for God.)
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To: exDemMom
OK, so I skipped a step. My point was solely that the presence of alternative DNA base pairs isn't even half the battle: in particular, would the two sets of 4 base pairs, each have their own sets of tRNA (and then amino acids)? If they mixed and matched would the amino acids be the original set, or would there exist new amino acids which bonded more strongly to the tRNA than the existing amino acids?

Would there be any interesting 2o structures in the proteins from any new amino acids (etc. etc.)

All of which is to say something of a sensitivity analysis on the system as it exists, is the optimal or near optimal for forming animal/human proteins, compared to other, umm, ingredients (assuming the same general form DNA--> tRNA --> amino acid --> protein)?

...and would the current proteins which unzip and stabilize DNA (and correct mistranscriptions) work as well on the DNA with 8 base pairs?

38 posted on 02/27/2019 7:36:49 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: MortMan

Ah....no. Words have meaning.


39 posted on 02/27/2019 7:55:04 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This movie never ends well.

Scientists shouldn’t try to play God as they tinker with what they think is an Intelligent Design.


40 posted on 02/27/2019 8:08:36 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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