Country singer honors ‘John Wayne and Jesus’ in new song

Christian Post ^ | Feb 3 2019 | Jeannie Law

[rintintin]

Billboard-topping country music singer Lucas Hoge says his new single “John Wayne and Jesus” is a tribute to his childhood and the values that were instilled in him.

Hoge filmed the video for his new single during a recent trip to Los Angeles where he performed on Hallmark's daytime talk show “Home & Family.” The single was also shot at the same Warner Bros. lot where Academy Award-winning legend John Wayne shot many of his movies.

"'John Wayne and Jesus' was a thought I had been sitting on for a while. When I got together with my buddies Andy Wills and Danny Simpson I knew they would be the perfect guys to bring it to life. We wanted to create one of those songs that really encompassed the way of life we had as kids and the values that mom, dad, John Wayne, and Jesus gave to us,” Hoge told The Christian Post of his new song.

[miss marmelstein]

What are cowboy mannerisms?

[nathanbedford]

1.long-winded posts

I don't feel winded it all.

2.avoiding the draft

Be careful,I never said he avoided the draft I said he didn't serve- a real and substantial difference.

3.I wouldn’t take too seriously what you think

I only hope the reader take seriously what I say and whether my facts are correct compared to your uninformed equestrian assumptions.

4. you pattern yourself after a guy

I don't pattern myself after Nathan Bedford Forrest or anyone else. I simply use his avatar. My thoughts are my own, not served up to me by Hollywood.

5.11 horses shot out from under him

Whereas John Wayne had his shot out from under him when he was play acting in True Grit. That says it all about those who distinguish reality from make-believe and those who do not.

[Reily]

I hand to come up with an expression - in one word that encompassed turning a 1930s LA kid into an actor that could plausibly be a 19th century cowboy. Perhaps I failed !

[miss marmelstein]

You cannot seem to understand that film has nothing to do with reality.

Speaking of reality, we have people here who think that the Duke was mentored by Wyatt Earp (he was mentored by John Ford from a very early age starting as an extra in his silent films), who think he was a draft dodger (which you certainly implied) and now I’m learning he had a horse shot out from under him in True Grit - you are confusing that with the film’s Bo who is shot out from under him and Little Blackie who dies of exhaustion. Neither horse died in the making of this movie. They were actors like your favorite, Rin-Tin-Tin.

The use of the term “play-acting” of course lends itself to my belief that you have contempt for John Wayne. Be careful there because while you admire Ben Johnson in The Last Picture Show, it is the director of that esteemed film who wildly admires the acting skills of The Duke and has given endless interviews on the subject. No one knows Ford or Wayne better.

[TalBlack]

I get it. John Wayne wasn’t a “real” ANYTHING. Not a real soldier, not a real horseman not a real gun handler and, perhaps, by your vaunted standards, therfore not much of a Man or an American.

But he portrayed what Men should be and what he thought America was and stood for in the world. He resisterd the impulse to make his charecters perfect. Many times his two fisted hard-charging charecters were forced to show humility or contrition.

He WAS an actor and in being one he did all he could to transmit to posterity the American Man and truth as he saw it. He did it so well that even in his time people who hate America HATED HIM with a passion Jimmy Stewert and Clark Gable, et al, never had directed at them. I was in grade school in the 60s when I became aware of the particularly snarling slitty-eyed HATE that he provoked in certain people and it amazed me... So, ok, yeah, he wasn’t a real anything...except Actor but he did THAT really really well.

I love the guy for what he put on film and the foaming, crazy, intractable enemies it made him. They hate me and my America as much as they hated him and it’s nice to know who they are. And it’s nice knowing, should we all meet out there someday, how I should conduct myself and why...

[nathanbedford]

The use of the term “play-acting” of course lends itself to my belief that you have contempt for John Wayne.

Rubbish!

I refer you again to this paragraph in a previous reply #9:

"More than six decades later I still vividly remember a wide eyed kid bedazzled in a movie theater by John Wayne's performance in, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon . His trilogy under John Ford of the American West remains a classic of the American cinema. True Grit Remains a wonderful movie and Wayne's acting rightly deserved an Oscar. The Quiet Man is a timeless treasure which nearly 70 years later remains a nearly perfect movie that was almost never made. John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara in that movie were superb, John Ford pulled it off again in directing this nostalgic look at old Ireland."

You just won't stop, will you?

who think he was a draft dodger (which you certainly implied)

That is an outrageous allegation. I said no such thing. If you want to make a point at least get the facts right for a change and refrain from baseless misrepresentations.

You cannot seem to understand that film has nothing to do with reality.

That has been the point of every one of my replies in this thread and you well know it.

[nathanbedford]

How do you feel about Robert De Niro?

[miss marmelstein]

If you would stop posting to me, I would have no need to respond. I stand by everything I wrote. Now let’s move on to another subject.

[nathanbedford]

If you would stop posting to me, I would have no need to respond.

A reader of this thread will note that it was you who reached out to me initially in your reply #7. Why are you leading people to believe that it is I who can not stop posting you when you initiated this discussion?

I stand by everything I wrote. Now let’s move on to another subject.

If you you want to withdraw from the fray, be my guest.

[miss marmelstein]

The whole point of FR is discussion. You didn’t have to reply to me. You chose to as I chose to respond to you. This isn’t brain surgery.

[Svartalfiar]

Billboard-topping country music singer Lucas Hoge

Hm. I've heard of Will Hoge, but not Lucas. I assume he's one of the new bro-country singers, especially if he's topping Nashville charts.

[Songcraft]

Can't wait to hear that new song.   Sounds like a great theme.   (The Duke was a great man.)   Thanks for posting.

Here's a couple other old songs with themes sort of along those same lines...

• "John Wayne and Jesus" - Pat Green

• "Jesus and John Wayne" - Gaither Vocal Band

[jjotto]

‘God Bless John Wayne’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QltFVbZVFE

[nathanbedford]

This isn’t brain surgery.

Madame, you tempt my powers of Christian forbearance to their limits.

[miss marmelstein]

Tough.

[miss marmelstein]

John Wayne never shot a single bad guy, never shot a single Indian, never wrangled any cows, never broke any horses, never set foot on Iwo Jima, never even served in combat, he got dressed up and played pretend in the movies.
He was an actor just like Rin tin tin.

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That’s your original post about John Wayne. Now try to tell me again you have no contempt for him.

[Reily]

I’ve read that about Earp & Wayne from several sources.

Here’s some

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/04/09/while-working-as-a-prop-boy-john-wayne-met-wyatt-earp-he-later-credited-his-walk-talk-and-persona-to-his-acquaintance-with-earp/

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/10/26/john-wayne-met-wyatt-earp-3/

I guess they all could reporting from the same bogus source.

[Reily]

And here’s one that says the influence wasn’t direct

https://www.americancowboy.com/lifestyle/the-influence-of-wyatt-earp-on-john-Wayne

Reminds one of the line from the Liberty Valance movie.

“When truth contradicts myth! Print myth!”

I may not have that quite right but close enough.

Oh yes and nowhere am I claiming that John Wayne is the apex of all American manly virtues. He seemed to be a good guy with some views I agree with. Him being an actor is irrelevant to the views.

[TalBlack]

De Niro? De Niro plays specific characters in the context of a story. John Wayne played John Wayne. Consider : People who hated John Wayne hate his movies. People who may hate Bobby De Niro’s politics love his moves.

[HiTech RedNeck]

We need to be honest when we get into the Jesus echelon of things, lest we misrepresent the Lord. While none of His believers are going to be perfect on earth, they will still more or less echo His nature, which is that of great sacrifice for the sake of what is truly good — things like mercy, grace, love, and humility, things against which there is no law.

This is the problem with cowboy-olatry: it is about an image, an idol. Even Wayne’s script writers spoke more, as Wayne simply obeyed the script.

Now if within this framework, Wayne illustrated a Jesus grade of goodness, it is by all means worthy of pointing out. But the appearance should follow the real thing. The cart should not be before the horse.