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Discarded smart lightbulbs reveal your wifi passwords, stored in the clear
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Posted on 02/10/2019 6:38:37 PM PST by ameribbean expat

Your smart lightbulb is probably storing your wifi password in the clear, ready to be recovered by wily dumpster-divers; Limited Results discovered the security worst-practice during a teardown of a Lifx bulb; and that's just for starters: the bulbs also store their RSA private key and root passwords in the clear and have no security measures to prevent malicious reflashings of their ROMs with exploits, network probes and other nasties.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: beseeingyou; bigbother; dimbulbs; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; ledbulbcolor; ledbulbs; ledlightbulbs; lightbulbs; passwords; privacy; privacyrights; smartbulbs; smartlightbulbs; technology; unintended; wifi
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To: carriage_hill

No toxins in incandescent bulbs.


41 posted on 02/10/2019 7:37:34 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Tenacious 1

I’d have to get rid of some of my incandescent bulbs in order to have room to buy yours.

Once LEDs got reasonable I use them in the hard to reach locations, so I have *plenty* of 60w to last the rest of my life. LOL And I bought them dirt cheap as soon as I knew they were going to ban them. 4 for a dollar, ha ha


42 posted on 02/10/2019 7:42:40 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: carriage_hill

I especially like breaking the 4 and 8 foot ones.


43 posted on 02/10/2019 7:44:21 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: PAR35

Brutally simple and clean.

The EnviroTards couldn’t stand that and had to “fix” it.


44 posted on 02/10/2019 7:45:09 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

We did the same thing - have two big plastic bins full of them :-)

(And you can still buy them, if you look around. I don’t know why, never understood exactly how the ‘ban’ works; but they’re out there...)


45 posted on 02/10/2019 7:47:48 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: ameribbean expat

When the switch from incandescent to CFL was made, I hated CFLs. The made noise and gave off a really strange light.

Today LEDs are the way to go. Science had conquered the blue light problem. The LED light I have for may desk gives off a warm glow that is nearly identical to an incandescent lamp.

But smart light bulbs? Sorry, I’l pass that. Along with Echo, Alexa, etc. My refrigerator does not need access to the Internet.

My homes have been dumb for many years and have gotten along fine. Why should I change that?


46 posted on 02/10/2019 7:54:32 PM PST by upchuck (When a society is open, then it [the Left] canÂ’t win. ~ Daniel Greenfield)
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To: JennysCool

Virtue signaling about light bulbs? Wow.


47 posted on 02/10/2019 7:57:48 PM PST by upchuck (When a society is open, then it [the Left] canÂ’t win. ~ Daniel Greenfield)
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To: ameribbean expat

Don’t use em


48 posted on 02/10/2019 8:03:35 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: ameribbean expat

Uh oh.


49 posted on 02/10/2019 8:07:17 PM PST by EdnaMode
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To: Jamestown1630

As I understand it, it was the manufacture of these bulbs that was banned after a certain date. There’s no ban on buying or selling them as long as there are any available.

Though I have no doubt that the liberals would have dearly loved to ban the use of the bulbs. I suspect they would have done what was done in Argentina if they could. That being sending the Army into people’s homes to take their incandescent bulbs away.


50 posted on 02/10/2019 8:09:49 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: upchuck

So, what kind of LED are you using that’s ‘nearly identical to an incandescent’? I haven’t found one; everything I’ve tried gives off cold, ugly light.


51 posted on 02/10/2019 8:11:58 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Well, there are still so many available, I’m wondering if people are buying them offshore, and selling them here (?)


52 posted on 02/10/2019 8:13:47 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Jamestown1630

“(I grew up having to actually get up off the couch to change the channel...)”

I remember having a remote control tv older than I was, a 1950’s model Philips or Zenith model I think. It worked by sound wave signals when you pushed a button.

On occasion some noise from the kitchen would match the frequency and turn the channel unexpectedly. LOL


53 posted on 02/10/2019 8:18:21 PM PST by LeoTDB69
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
A.K.A. not-so-smart bulbs.

54 posted on 02/10/2019 8:18:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: LeoTDB69

Huh.

Your family must have been a lot more wealthy than mine was...


55 posted on 02/10/2019 8:24:35 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Jamestown1630

That would not surprise me at all. The quickest way to create a flourishing black market is to ban something people want.

But again, and this is only my memory, it was the 60 watt bulbs that got banned and the 75 and 100 watt bulbs either weren’t banned or the ban started much later.

My own theory is that a lot of people bought into the hype and jumped over to CFLs early on after the band was announced. Add to that that this helped cause a leap in the quality and lowering of cost of LEDs. So I think that demand just tanked and that’s why we have so many still around.

My daughter lives in Louisville and Louisville Gas and Electric gives her free CFLs. So she doesn’t have any motivation to buy bulbs. That right there is an artificial distortion of demand.


56 posted on 02/10/2019 8:26:27 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: Jamestown1630

Look for the color temp on the packaging. 2800K to 3500K will give you a nice warm light. I’ve got ‘em throughout my house. Can’t tell the difference.


57 posted on 02/10/2019 8:35:32 PM PST by Dad x 3
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To: ameribbean expat

Fundamental problem with the “internet of things.” Sure, the idea is to make almost everything “smart” and connected. Catch-22 here. By definition they have to be connected to what you’re connected to. They also need to be secure, so they are “in” on the security of your network. The gotcha is, as this particular device illustrates, the security of your network is then reliant on all these devices to keep it secure. Your network is only as good as the weakest device on it. These are consumer goods manufacturers, appliance makers, etc. They are not (yet) cyber security experts. Someday someone will breach your network through your sprinkler control system and convince your refrigerator to order 47 cases of cheeze-whiz from the local grocer...


58 posted on 02/10/2019 8:35:33 PM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

We bought a bunch of those spiral-y CFLs when we heard the ban was going to take place. But they didn’t last very long! and were much more expensive than old-fashioned bulbs; and we didn’t like the disposal issues.

That’s the reason we stocked-up on incandescents.


59 posted on 02/10/2019 8:40:39 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Dad x 3

Thanks. I’ll try them.


60 posted on 02/10/2019 8:43:44 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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