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1 posted on 02/06/2019 10:36:58 PM PST by Olog-hai
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If you want to make it home, isn't the solution obvious?

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2 posted on 02/06/2019 10:40:08 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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Goes to show, that electric cars still have problems which traditional gas powered cars don’t .


3 posted on 02/06/2019 10:42:29 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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Also, battery lifespan is reduced by many years when it is exposed to multiple months per year of freezing temperatures, as anyone who grew up in Canada or the rust belt already knew.

But you can’t tell the geniuses of silicon valley that - they are the smartest engineers in the world. Just ask them !


7 posted on 02/06/2019 11:00:27 PM PST by Reverend Wright (TAX the WOKE !)
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Kind of makes one wish there was such a thing as an internal combustion engine. /sarc

JoMa


17 posted on 02/07/2019 1:46:34 AM PST by joma89
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Are used batteries a problem for the environment? I have problems with the disposal of standard batteries for my tractors, mowers, trucks, motorcycles, and cars. I can get some payback at the recycling center but those cars have many batteries.


18 posted on 02/07/2019 2:37:30 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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What is not discussed is another bummer for ion batteries. Extreme temperatures, either hot or cold, shortens the overall life of these batteries


25 posted on 02/07/2019 3:50:09 AM PST by iontheball
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No poop Sherlock.


26 posted on 02/07/2019 3:55:30 AM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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That’s not surprising at all. What is surprising is that buyers and potential buyers wouldn’t realize this and have to be told by a study. There’s only one source of stored energy in an electric vehicle. If you use it to generate heat, or cool, that’s energy you don’t have to move. Fossil fuel powered vehicles get heat almost for free. The engine produces waste heat. To heat the passenger compartment only requires a little juice for the fan and maybe a tiny amount of loss from pushing coolant through the small radiator in the heater instead of the main radiator. (Probably about equal) Running an air conditioning compressor (and the fan again) for cooling can take a noticeable chunk of energy from gas/diesel engines. (Particularly small engines) Hence the debate over when to switch from windows down (and drag) to windows up and AC.


27 posted on 02/07/2019 4:22:03 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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If you drive with no heater or AC running, you don’t drain the battery. You guys are just not as creative as the Collectivists..


28 posted on 02/07/2019 4:22:16 AM PST by lurk
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Single digits almost reduced our internal combustion gasoline vehicle by 100%

Barely got the truck started the other morning.


29 posted on 02/07/2019 4:25:56 AM PST by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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Tesla said they’re going to be pushing a software change to solve the range problem in cold weather (true).

LOL, as if the laws of physics can be changed by a few lines of code.


30 posted on 02/07/2019 5:01:19 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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Keep in mind, that’s only 20F. Below zero is twice the fun!

...and then, what happens if they get stuck outdoors in a snow jam, particularly with less than half a charge? They may have the one car that lets them hold their noses up at their friends at parties, but they will EASILY be the first to freeze to death out there too.


31 posted on 02/07/2019 5:07:50 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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"electric cars can still be used in extreme climates with a little extra planning."

Ya, like buying a real car to drive when the temperature is anything but 75 degrees.

32 posted on 02/07/2019 5:08:56 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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DUH!

You mean the manufacturers and the climate wackos never told you that?! How come I knew it? I don’t need AAA to tell me that.

Did you plan to use an air conditioner during the summer? Did you actually want heat in the winter?

And when the electric cars break down, what do you think powers the trucks that come to get them going again?

Only petroleum products contain enough stored energy to make their use worthwhile.


36 posted on 02/07/2019 5:37:36 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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The electric car owners could pile their hemp blankets over the batteries to keep them warm at night.


38 posted on 02/07/2019 5:47:15 AM PST by jetson
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Hahahahaha.


39 posted on 02/07/2019 5:58:13 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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Put a friggin trailer hitch on the dammed electric car so it can tow a compact trailer with a diesel fuel tank and a generator that can also supplement the heating and air conditioning, plus extending the mileage.
I could design one with a live axel that gives extra pushing and dynamic braking.
Kinda like a diesel electric freight train helper engine.


42 posted on 02/07/2019 6:09:10 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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Somewhere I have an old cartoon saved about the electric car in winter. It shows an electric car stopped on the highway at night while it is snowing & blowing & one of the occupants climbing a light pole to get some power. In the meantime, there is a string of cars behind waiting as far as the eye can see.


43 posted on 02/07/2019 6:31:07 AM PST by oldtech
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This isn’t news. Shocked its being packaged as news. Little surprised we haven’t looked at other low temp applications (COUGH,spaceprogram,COUGH) to crack the code on this.

Battery science has been catching up of late, but not at the rate you’d expect.


58 posted on 02/07/2019 8:36:02 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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for me it comes down to one primary issue. I can’t store or transport electricity to power my car like I can with my gasoline car. in a real emergency I can take a truck bed load of gas cans and get to safety. with electricity, if it’s down, my car is dead.


67 posted on 02/07/2019 10:02:13 AM PST by stompk
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