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1 posted on 02/05/2019 9:29:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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A problem when you retire at 53 and live to 90.


2 posted on 02/05/2019 9:30:24 AM PST by jalisco555 ("In a Time of Universal Deceit Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act" - George Orwell)
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New York should legalize super late term abortions. Problem solved.


3 posted on 02/05/2019 9:30:26 AM PST by RushCrush (Proud embracer of beer and red solo cups.)
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the correctional officer’s union in Cal used to lie and say COs die within 2.5 years of retirement. Since they retired by 55, this was a scary stat. I’m retired 20 years last May. Looking forward to a long life and pension under the old formula, as is my wife.


5 posted on 02/05/2019 9:32:06 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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And states had laws and state constitutions that defined marriage as between one man and one woman.

All it took was one Federal judge to null/void.

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“That’s because these states have laws or constitutional provisions that limit the ability of governments to alter pensions for current workers for as long as they remain employed. Among other things, governments often can’t require higher contributions from workers themselves; nor can they lower benefits. “


6 posted on 02/05/2019 9:34:32 AM PST by 2banana (Were you)
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Fuzzy math and politics made this inevitable.


8 posted on 02/05/2019 9:38:37 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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Can I ask a stupid question??

How are there “unfunded liabilities”?????

Because, aren’t there legal requirements to deposit required amounts into the pension funds?

I understand the liabilities have grown, due to longer life expectancy, but aren’t they setting aside money ?? Aren’t there legal requirements as to how pension funds are accounted for and administered?

It’s hard to believe, that they can report there are large unfunded liabilities, and then nothing is done to take care of the problem.


9 posted on 02/05/2019 9:42:30 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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I read a book a few years back called “While America Aged: How Pension Debts Ruined General Motors, Stopped the NYC Subways, Bankrupted San Diego, and Loom as the Next Financial Crisis” by Roger Lowenstein which addressed this issue.

There were lots of reasons that contributed but the main one was that is is much easier to promise an increased pension many years in the future that will be paid by future taxpayers rather than offering a pay rise this year which will be paid by current taxpayers.


15 posted on 02/05/2019 9:50:40 AM PST by FewsOrange
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It boggles my mind why anyone ever thought defined-benefit plans were a good thing.


17 posted on 02/05/2019 10:06:43 AM PST by PlateOfShrimp
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If we did not have to give the federal government so much of our money we could pay for our own retirements.

Case in point - If a couple has worked enough to give the federal government $25,000 per year in taxes, then at the end of a 40 year work life, they would have $1,000,000.

And that does not include the interest they would have accrued along the way.

19 posted on 02/05/2019 10:09:17 AM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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So, someone in the pension fund management, forgot to tell prospective pension fund retirees they were expected to die by a certain actuarially-determined date and age, in order to provide a pension to those up-and-coming whipper-snappers?

And that it would be irresponsible to not die and bail out the corrupt and incompetent pension fund management?

That sounds like poor planning . . .


21 posted on 02/05/2019 10:16:20 AM PST by Miguk
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Cull the herd ...


22 posted on 02/05/2019 10:16:31 AM PST by IronJack
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LOL. Then why isn’t this a massive crisis for every single pension plan? The reality is that the government is trying to blame actuarial tables for their politicians completely overly generous pension benefit give-away that was put in place to get votes for the politicians who voted for it. The crisis happened when the legislature voted for this obscene boondoggle, not now based on some actuarial mistake.


23 posted on 02/05/2019 10:25:27 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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The short answer to “Why do I have to wait so long to catch the bus in Pittsburgh?”

Because over half of their revenue is going to pay guys who retired younger than I am to sit home and watch Jerry Springer.


24 posted on 02/05/2019 10:34:03 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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The country made lucrative pension promises to government workers and didn’t bother funding. Unless I’m wrong, a lot of government workers’ pensions pay them 80% of their final year or two salary. Compare that to social security. By the way, tax payers pay for bot of those pensions.


25 posted on 02/05/2019 10:35:08 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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With direct deposit I suspect a lot of them live long after their death buried in the basement or the back yard.


26 posted on 02/05/2019 11:03:15 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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Public employees who sit at a desk all day are supposed to die early. But they don’t. Another health myth destroyed.


27 posted on 02/05/2019 4:30:16 PM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . ")
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