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To: ichabod1; All

Yes, you hit important points.

The awareness is essential to know that elected officials in Congress vote taxpayer money to PP and others and then receive a kickback donation, so in effect, they vote themselves money.

DC is isolated, money wins elections, the public is often powerless to have the means to find and fund adequate representation. So your point that Congress is, in its present mode, the problem, is an important first result to arrive at.

What to do about it is one of the next points. Fortunately, we have a vestige of the past still living with us in the form of state legislatures. These are the organs by which an Article V process can be carried out to bypass the problem which is Congress. And the framers foresaw this, they knew there could be a time when Congress carved itself out as a sort of aristocracy of monied, titled persons, leaving no avenue for citizens to redress grievances.

One of the things to realize is that to organize with like-minded people on a national scale to form an agreement to amend the Constitution requires communication, and what is there to disrupt, jam, distort, twist the messages in that communication? Why the established media of course. Take time to read a short example of how that works (http://dcwhispers.com/did-obama-pay-journos-for-positive-coverage-and-to-attack-trump-why-yes-yes-he-did/#uTAfd4rAemkbMTID.97).

We have seen even on this thread someone who thinks amending the Constitution is a bad idea because of ‘people’ or ‘just because’, and then go on to repeat the talking points programmed into them and for which some scientist like Moran Cerf would say they feel they decided of their own free will even though they were programmed to absorb and repeat the talking points such as “the Constitution is fine as it is, just need judges to enforce it”, “leave the Constitution alone”, and so on. And it’s interesting to note that such programmed people will fight to no end to say they came to these decisions of their own free will when clearly they did not, they were programmed.

Psychological memes are put into news and social media to program people for and against certain things. It’s sometimes called “shaping public opinion”, “educating the voter” when it’s actually just another form of programmed advertising. People buy Charmin because it’s extra soft and irresistible to avoid squeezing. The programming to make people think, feel, imagine that should anyone ‘tinker’ with the Constitution, all Hell will break loose, the world will end, the left will take full control, Antifa will be at your doorstep, etc.

The reality is the Left would have repealed the 2nd Amendment and passed an amendment for universal healthcare long ago if they ever had any hope of using Article V to bring their plans to reality.

The Left knows that conservatives control Article V if conservatives knew they controlled it, so the counter is to keep conservatives from learning about Article V, and for those that so learn about it, there must be a deluge of negative commentary about how it will end up overthrowing the Constitution (scare tactics).

The Left is relieved just to see someone break up the conversation we are having right now. They are afraid of us gaining awareness of a strength we didn’t know we had, afraid that a weakness of theirs will be exposed.


551 posted on 02/04/2019 12:07:16 PM PST by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Deranged Q Fringe))
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To: Hostage

Regardless of the merits or lack thereof of your arguments, your attacking everyone who disagrees with you as “programmed” is absurd.

This tactic brings into question whatever else you may attempt to bring to the table, because you come across as nutty, not to mention rude.

I think you should back away from the keyboard and take a chill pill.


560 posted on 02/04/2019 12:30:11 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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To: Hostage
The Left is relieved just to see someone break up the conversation we are having right now.

It's a great conversation to have.

On another thread. And without being a dick.

584 posted on 02/04/2019 1:38:41 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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