Germany responsible for the Holocaust, not Nazis: Polish Prime Minister

The Local Germany ^ | 28 Jan 2019 | AFP

[Carl Vehse]

It’s called an “analogy.”

[jmacusa]

Nazi Germany was an aberration of decades of nihilist and racist German pseudo intellectualism, ancient mysticism , Prussian militarism, German nationalism and anti- Semitism. In short Nazism and the Nazi Party and it's platform were a light house for every maladjusted crank to find a refuge and a sounding board.

[UnwashedPeasant]

"It’s called an 'analogy.'"

It is called a perfect analogy.

[TigersEye]

I’m afraid I don’t agree that evil is an aberration. I think it has been an ever present force in mankind for as long as mankind has existed. Those who recognize and oppose evil have to stand down for evil to flourish ... and every so often, throughout history, they do.

[AnalogReigns]

A significant part of the Polish people are STILL antisemitic.

[dfwgator]

Every country in Europe was anti-semitic, even the US.

Poland is singled out, simply because they had the most Jews in Europe.

But if Poles were so anti-semitic, why did so many Jews settle there over the centuries?

[AnalogReigns]

Anti-semitism in Poland

[dfwgator]

Unfortunately, a lot of the Poles did help the nazis out with their jew hunting.

Wrong, unlike Ukrainians, there were no Polish guards at the Death Camps. Yes, there were some isolated incidents, which were regrettable. But there were many "Righteous Gentiles", who risked not only their lives, but the lives of their entire family in order to help hide Jews.

[AnalogReigns]

Point is not that the Poles were more antisemitic than other Europeans. Point is they were not the completely innocent victims in the Holocaust of the Jews as they seem to like to portray themselves today.

[dfwgator]

The 303rd Kosciuszko Squadron, Enigma, Monte Cassino, among other things.

Poles never stopped fighting the Nazis, and many continued the fight against the Bolsheviks, even after the war.

[dfwgator]

Who said they were completely innocent?

But there was no “Vichy Poland”?

Were The Netherlands innocent? Somebody there betrayed Anne Frank and her family, and they had the highest rate of volunteers for the Waffen SS for any occupied country. Yet nobody calls The Netherlands an “Anti-Semitic Country”.

[dfwgator]

It’s never “German or ‘’Germans’’.It’s as if the Nazis were this thing that fell out of the clouds one day into Germany.

And yet somehow, Austria, birthplace of Hitler, and home of many of the most radical Nazis, somehow gets a pass.

[dfwgator]

They seized power..... by winning an election.

Again...wrong! The Nazis suffered a humiliating defeat in the last free election. Hitler was appointed Chancellor, and through imtimidation engineered a coup to seize control of the German government.

[dfwgator]

. But in the far east of Poland there were people who were cheerful and helpful Jew murderers. Lviv scoured their city for Jews.

Yes, those were the parts of Poland that were occupied by the Soviets in 1939. Many Poles were killed, or exiled to Siberia, and many blamed the Jews for that. Not to excuse what happened, but it does explain perhaps why some Poles did what they did. And the Germans were more than happy to exploit that. However, the Poles cooperation with the Nazis, paled in comparison with that of the Ukrainians, Latvians, Estonians and Lithuanians. Again....NOT ONE POLE served as a guard at the Death Camps. The Nazis knew better than to give a Pole a rifle, knowing the Pole would use it right away on the German if given a chance.

[dfwgator]

Also Poles had to deal with Stepan Bandera and his Ukrainian thugs, who murdered over 100,000 ethnic Poles during the War.

[blueplum]

Lets not forget but let's not also forget German people paid for their sins under the Potsdam agreement - 12 million mostly women, old and children, forcibly relocated throughout Europe, lands, homes and personal belongings confiscated, and about 2 million mostly men but some women too, beat to death or otherwise killed from Czechosolvakia to Italy. Not including those enlisted taken out by Russian prison camps. There are plaques on houses and street signs on each street in Berlin to remind tourists and Germans on a daily basis of their role in genocide.

[jmacusa]

No.It’s called ‘’moral idiocy’’.

[dfwgator]

Warsaw 1945.

[jmacusa]

That’s true. It’s been said that Austrians were even more anti-Semitic than the Germans!

[dfwgator]

In fact, many times the German Nazis had to tell the Austrian Nazis to tone it down.