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He caved. America lost.

the democrats plan to use immigration to dilute out conservative voters is still right on track. And now no one is standing in their way.

1 posted on 01/25/2019 11:33:40 AM PST by Cubs Fan
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He should have declared the emergency in exchange for opening government again. He could have said the shutdown adds to the emergency. It was a lost opportunity.


164 posted on 01/25/2019 12:08:27 PM PST by Magnatron
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He did shut down the government for a month. The battle for the wall continues. He has shown the RATS to be for open borders, while the caravan continues. God help us if a plane crashed while the government was shut down. This will not cause any Trump supporter to support a RAT.


170 posted on 01/25/2019 12:11:01 PM PST by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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If you think this is a Mammoth Cave you don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground.


173 posted on 01/25/2019 12:12:21 PM PST by babble-on
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“he caved. America lost.”

Man, have you got this wrong.

Big BIG Winnings listed below:

1) The BIGGEST Win: Pelosi, via her unprecedented and lower-than-pond-scum rescinding of the invite to the House for the SOTU - which EVERYONE in the country sees - was trying to stop our Prez from talking especially about the border security/democrat hypocrisy.

... and with all the leadup from all the news networks for this Rose Garden update, we just saw our Prez talk to EVERYONE in the country precisely about the one thing Treacherous-hag Pelosi did not want...

It was almost as good as a SOTU. Heck, this was BETTER than a SOTU!!! because...

(A) He got to talk to the We the People about the one most important thing the dhimmicrats want to defeat him and screw us on (immigration and border security), and...

(B) the dhimmicrats - since this wasn’t an official SOTU - did not and could NOT have a RESPONSE!!!

In other words, the entire American Public saw the narrative - completely and without refutation from the disloyal left - defined by PRESIDENT TRUMP!

2) Yesterday Schumer and the democrats voted down a bill to pay the Coast Guard. The COAST GUARD!!! Despite having gone without pay for 3 weeks.

Over the past few weeks, the American public has come to learn that my USCG brethren (ok, ours, but I’m a retired Coastie...) - because they’re not DoD (they’re DHS) - have NOT been paid for 35 days. The same Coast Guard that has saved thousands of lives in recent Weather Disasters, and has been lauded so strongly by our Prez. The same Coast Guard that - unlike TSA - has NOT called in sick but instead, like my Semper Paratus brothers and sisters they are, continued the mission.

... democrats voted against that. That’s like saying democrats voted against America.

And today, with this temp re-opening, my Coastie brothers and sisters will have relief from the economic hardships imposed upon them by democrats... and our Prez can be given CREDIT for this achievement!

In summary, the Prez has the upper hand, and continues to win. The country saw this, heard this, and didn’t see or hear a dhimmicrat refutation/response. Best part of all... the People heard very clearly, “if this doesn’t get done in the next few weeks and the government shuts down again, I WILL use National Emergency Authority to get it done!”

MAGA! KAG!

the JG


176 posted on 01/25/2019 12:13:36 PM PST by CGVet58 (God has Granted us Liberty, and we owe Him our Courage in return)
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Well, you still have Jeb.


177 posted on 01/25/2019 12:13:39 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Fox News: "We distort, you deride")
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To: Jim Robinson; Cubs Fan; All

I've read thru almost 150 posts on this pathetic thread and a good 80% of the posts thereon sound as though they were cut/pasted from DU.

No one here has even half a clue what's going on behind the scenes of this fustercluck, but of one thing I'm sure - Donald Trump has shown courage enough these past two years to earn my trust for the next two/six.

Given the instant capitulation of a lot of 'freepers' (lowercase intentional) in here, I'd rather share my foxhole with one good dog than ten of their white flag waving ilk.

Truly a disgraceful display of hand-wringing exhibitionism.

spit

180 posted on 01/25/2019 12:15:53 PM PST by tomkat
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WTF is your problem? You think Ted Cruz would be a more effective leader? Trump wasn’t my pick in the primaries, but he has proven to be a truely outstanding President who loves his country and fights with all his might. You must be an Ann Coulter fan.


181 posted on 01/25/2019 12:16:53 PM PST by TBall
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IMO: Trump caved to the NWO / deep state today in order to save his children from the unrestricted Mueller thugs


182 posted on 01/25/2019 12:17:24 PM PST by drypowder
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“Trump caves we have NO ONE now”

He has had no one to support him. He’s been a lone warrior. Have we taken to the streets to support him? Have we made the life of RINOs and RATs miserable. Where our yellow jackets protesting the media?

We barely get off our butts to cast a vote and then we expect the guy to do all the fighting for us single handedly.

Winning an election is only one battle of a war. The leftists learned a long time go that winning the propaganda battles, the legal battles and street battles are just as, if not more, important.

We’ve forgotten the lessons of the Tea Party days.


185 posted on 01/25/2019 12:18:04 PM PST by aquila48
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Stay positive... Look at what happened election night. Hillery had it won... Until... :)


191 posted on 01/25/2019 12:20:10 PM PST by Openurmind
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“We have no one”

Cubs Fan: Spokesman for the assembled!

LOL!


194 posted on 01/25/2019 12:22:06 PM PST by coaster123 (Bring back the curtsy.)
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It is so hard not to be snarky on posts that have no substance other than Pres Trump chose to deal with an obstructionist democrat party and Republican party members who join in with that obstruction, with his own plan of action other than that of anothers. What responsibility or penalty of any sort is there for anybody who thinks their ideas have to be implemented? The consequences of what Pres Trump does will affect him for good or bad and that gives him weight in his decisions. He is working for the benefit of the American people. He has knowledge of the consequences of any route he takes toward his goal of building the border wall. As fun and satisfying as it would be to have him do a variety of things to stick it to the dems, it would not be productive in advancing toward the goal of securing the border. God bless Pres Trump.
197 posted on 01/25/2019 12:23:51 PM PST by mountainfolk
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Grow a pair.... he said they have 3 weeks or he’ll declare an emergency. He has all the cards.
- An agreement publicly stated.
- A fall back if they renege which he stated he would do.
- Fed workers get paid so that is off the table.
- SOTU back on so he has a couple hours to talk to the American people, by then 1/3 of the time will be clocked off so he can talk to status and if the deal is being upheld.

Dems have nothing .... HOLD THE LINE!


205 posted on 01/25/2019 12:29:23 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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"And now no one is standing in their way."

You're not standing in their way. I am.

213 posted on 01/25/2019 12:34:07 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Nobody eats their own like FR. Nobody.


220 posted on 01/25/2019 12:42:37 PM PST by Alcibiades (I'm not tired of winning. More MAGA. More Mooch. More 5D chess. More covfefe.)
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I do not fear what is to come from the darkness of the current events that we face this day in time. I am comforted with the Word of my God. He is above all and is the Almighty God of this universe. Have faith in Him and all of your fears will be washed away.
223 posted on 01/25/2019 12:47:18 PM PST by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))
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They will have full soviet union style monopoly on all government power in ten years or less.

I think you are right. 20 tops. But that has nothing to do with Trump. Main challenges we face are:

1)Millenials are all-in on Socialism and don't appear to be maturing out of that as they move into their 30's.

2)Every day a few more of us pass away.

3)The Democrat Party is radicalizing at breakneck speed.

Given those forces in play the sovietization would occur even if immigration were totally stopped. Leaving the border open will just cause it to happen a bit more quickly.


225 posted on 01/25/2019 12:48:45 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Have you been wetting your pants and crying yourself to sleep since child hood, or has this just started?

Did your parents take away your pacifier and blankie too early?


245 posted on 01/25/2019 1:27:06 PM PST by redfreedom (The only thing consistent about liberal logic is the inconsistency of their logic.)
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1) Trump get’s a Negotiated Wall or he’ll get an Emergency Order Wall.
2) Trump gets his State of the Union Adress in the House and gets to highlight his amazing accomplishments.
3) Trump has brilliantly exposed Dems as vile hypocrites and liars.
4) Trump is leading the process of re-opening the government on his terms. He’ll end the negotiations on his terms.
5) Trump will highlight during his SOTU Adress, the disgusting liberal media’s behaviour of smearing the innocent catholic kids - the very same media that supports open borders endangering our amazing nation.
6) Trump is demonstrating leadership above partisanship, principles over pettiness and the bitter vindictiveness of Nancy Pelosi.
7) Trump is RADICALLY improving his approval rating among Mexicans, Latinos, blacks and minorities who are disproportionately impacted by illegal immigration.
8) Trump has forced the Democratic Party to turn hard left, a turn that will for decades make them less attractive in our center-right nation.
9) Trump is inspiring and educating true conservatives on how to actually fight like hell, stand on principle, deliver on campaign promises and laugh in the media’s faces.
10) Trump has accomplished all this in just 2 years, in spite of losers like Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, and 98% of the Democrat-Media-Silicon Valley complex against him.
247 posted on 01/25/2019 1:33:00 PM PST by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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You’re a bit weak, eh.


251 posted on 01/25/2019 1:43:05 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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