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A 10-year-old kid won a science fair by proving Tom Brady is a cheater
Yahoo Sports ^ | January 24, 2019 | Liz Roscher

Posted on 01/24/2019 5:58:12 PM PST by EdnaMode

Some kids make baking soda and vinegar volcanoes for their science fair projects. Others find a way to turn their passion into a science fair project.

Meet Ace Davis, a 10-year-old kid from Lexington, Kentucky who created a science fair project about Tom Brady. While kids in New England might be trying to figure out how to scientifically prove that Brady is the greatest quarterback who ever lived, Ace decided to go in a different direction. He created a science fair project that proves that Brady is a cheater.

Ace sought to prove that Brady was a cheater through science. He wanted to show that deflated footballs gave Brady a competitive advantage. On his poster, he included the results of experiments he did with his mom and sister. Each of them threw footballs of varying inflation, and he measured the distance of each one and calculated the average. He found that the least inflated football traveled the farthest, therefore giving Brady a competitive advantage.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Science; Sports
KEYWORDS: acedavis; brady; deflategate; football; local; nfl; patriots; society; tombrady
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To: yesthatjallen

The Colts are the only team which has been caught with needles on the field. Not just in the 2014 AFCCG. There was, by the way, no punishment for it.

Really, this is all just silliness. Yes, you can go and make every football the same exact pressure on the field - but just the side judge holding one between plays will cause variation (approximately .1 PSI per 2 F) beyond what the NFL is fussing about.

The ball being wet is many times the variation. Or muddy.

And again...6 PSI over the course of the season, and no one apparently noticed in decades - including the ex-QBs that were outraged, and who’d played with footballs with lower pressure.

This was just about doing a gotcha against the Patriots (the NFL itself violated multiple procedures in multiple ways), that backfired because the League was completely unaware of 8th grade science and this thing called “outdoors”. Instead of admitting it, the NFL offices doubled down on stupid.

The QBs are much more concerned about the feel of the footballs, and no QB is going to have a training staff introduce variations in pressure to footballs after they’ve gotten the balls the way they’d like.

Actually, if you watch the infamous Bill Nye video, note a couple of things: he never measured the actual pressure after took the balls out of the refrigerator, and...he proclaimed that he couldn’t tell the difference in the now underinflated balls - which was exactly the opposite of the point he was trying to make.

http://www.avclub.com/article/bill-nye-also-investigates-science-deflate-gate-214608


101 posted on 01/24/2019 10:31:21 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Paul R.

Yup.

As you say, the leather surface of the football becomes harder (not softer, despite the pressure change). In this state, the football is often described as a rock, as it becomes relatively non-bouncy.

Water has multiple effects, including affecting weight and balance.


102 posted on 01/24/2019 10:36:58 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Let's Roll

Not just the Patriots balls. The entire league.

By the way, the Wells report doesn’t dispute the following, it just doesn’t draw attention to it:

Start 12.5 PSI, 75F =((A2+14.7)*(C2+459.67)/(B2+459.67)-14.7)
P1 T1 T2 P2 Difference
12.5 75 120 14.79 2.29
12.5 75 115 14.53 2.03
12.5 75 110 14.28 1.78
12.5 75 105 14.03 1.53
12.5 75 100 13.77 1.27
12.5 75 90 13.26 0.76
12.5 75 85 13.01 0.51
12.5 75 80 12.75 0.25
12.5 75 75 12.50 0.00
12.5 75 70 12.25 -0.25
12.5 75 65 11.99 -0.51
12.5 75 60 11.74 -0.76
12.5 75 55 11.48 -1.02
12.5 75 50 11.23 -1.27
12.5 75 45 10.97 -1.53
12.5 75 40 10.72 -1.78
12.5 75 35 10.47 -2.03
12.5 75 30 10.21 -2.29
12.5 75 25 9.96 -2.54
12.5 75 20 9.70 -2.80
12.5 75 10 9.19 -3.31
12.5 75 0 8.68 -3.82
12.5 75 -10 8.18 -4.32
12.5 75 -15 7.92 -4.58 (Ice Bowl)


103 posted on 01/24/2019 10:46:06 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

For the above, the final pressure would be

=((P1+14.7)*(T2+459.67)/(T1+459.67)-14.7)

Excel calculates it all nicely.


104 posted on 01/24/2019 10:50:02 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Addendum B
https://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/05/24/deflategate-professors-file-amicus-brief-admonishing-nfl-supporting-tom-brady/

3. So-Called “Deflated” Footballs Are Common In NFL Games
Here, the group noted that the NFL has admitted to now understanding the Ideal Gas Law. The group then looked at the temperature for 10,000 NFL games dating back to 1960 and determined that if footballs were inflated in a 70-degree room:

–Footballs inflated to 13.0 PSI before the game would have dropped below the NFL’s allowable limit in approximately 61 percent of every NFL game since 1960.

–Footballs inflated to 12.5 PSI before the game would have dropped below the NFL’s allowable limit in approximately 82 percent of every NFL game since 1960.

–Footballs inflated to 13.5 PSI before the game would have dropped below the NFL’s allowable limit in approximately 38 percent of every NFL game since 1960.


105 posted on 01/24/2019 10:59:01 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

#3. Please don’t confuse us with facts. The kid and the award committee were “Blinded by Science”. NOT!


106 posted on 01/24/2019 11:42:52 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: null and void

#30. Don’t forget to factor in the air temperature and air pressure. New England was very cold if I remember correctly.

My balls deflate in the cold. Just saying!


107 posted on 01/24/2019 11:46:09 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
My balls deflate in the cold. Just saying!

"I was in the pool!"

108 posted on 01/24/2019 11:46:35 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: lepton

#103> Say what? I don’t speak in “Numbers”; “tongues”, maybe, but not “Numbers”.


109 posted on 01/24/2019 11:47:45 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: dfwgator

#108. Oh, I forget the George Castanza excuse, “Shrinkage”!!!


110 posted on 01/24/2019 11:49:00 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

The formatting got scrunched a little.

P1 Starting Pressure
T1 Starting Temperature
T2 Ending Temperature

P2 Ending pressure.

The calculation for ending pressure (P2):
=((P1+14.7)*(T2+459.67)/(T1+459.67)-14.7)

12.5 75 120 14.79 2.29

So if you start at 12.5 PSI(gauge), and 75F, and increase the temperature to 120 F as a dark object might be on a very hot day in the sunlight, you end up with a pressure of 14.79 PSI (gauge), which is an increase of 2.29 PSI.

12.5 75 -15 7.92 -4.58 (Ice Bowl)

So if you start at 12.5 PSI(gauge), and 75F, and decrease the temperature to -15 F like it was in the Ice Bowl by some accounts, you end up with a pressure of 7.92 PSI (gauge), which is a loss of 4.58 PSI.

From the center point of pressure, it only takes ten degrees up or down to reach the limits of the legal range.


111 posted on 01/25/2019 12:11:01 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Thanks for the information. As if my brain wasn’t already scrambled trying to make sense of this and my eyeballs so crossed I could see my left pocket wallet with my right eye.

Like the ball, I’m also under a lot of pressure!


112 posted on 01/25/2019 12:23:42 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: lepton

Frankly, if it was a whole lot than that, it would make it difficult to throw with consistency. My post was just a list of the impacts and on the topic of the original article.


113 posted on 01/25/2019 4:41:31 AM PST by D Rider
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To: Vermont Lt

We have an anti success culture now. Now if you succeed you are “lucky”

“The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary” - Vince Lombardi


114 posted on 01/25/2019 5:50:19 AM PST by Jimmy The Snake
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To: Vermont Lt
Haters gonna hate.

Losers gonna lose.

Winners gonna win.

115 posted on 01/25/2019 5:53:38 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: EdnaMode
mom and sister. Each of them threw footballs

All between 5 and 10 ft........good test.

116 posted on 01/25/2019 5:54:07 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: dfwgator

“I was in the pool using it for an oar!”


117 posted on 01/25/2019 5:56:45 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: lepton
This was just about doing a gotcha against the Patriots

The problem, inflating footballs in warm locker rooms and then having the pressure drop once they become acclimatize to lower outside temps, is an easy fix. There are many simple solutions.

If the NFL wants to remove any question once and for all the solutions I offered are an easy fix and contain checks and balances (inflate balls with the other team present and have the other team test the pressure).

Keep the uninflated balls outside before the game. Inflate uninflated ball outside after they've reached ambient outside temperature with each team using the same inflation machine. Have the opposing team check the pressure of each others ball after they are inflated.

Or just have the NFL provide the official ball for play. Have a neutral NFL staff do it and then each team checks each ball pressure with each team present.

If manipulating the ball pressure is such a concern, why does the NFL let each team be responsible for their own balls? Does the NHL allow each team to use their own puck or the NBA allow each team to use their own ball?

Solution: The NFL provides the ball. And to prevent using a needle during play, a small dab of colored latex over the inflation hole would create a seal which could be regularly checked to see if it was broken.

Of course the whole episode was nothing more than trying to impugn Brady and call his wins into question.

For their next trick, the NFL is going to work out how many angels can dance on the head of a (football inflating) needle.

118 posted on 01/25/2019 6:01:12 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

The balls are switched when the offensive squad takes the field at the end of any play where the ball has been turned over from a punt, kick, interception, or fumble.

The kickers and punters on each team also use footballs that they have selected.


119 posted on 01/25/2019 6:26:10 AM PST by shotgun
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To: lepton
Another aspect of the silliness. The teams are explicitly allowed to rub, burnish, mud, and adjust the texture of the footballs, and up to 1 PSI of the pressure, according to the rules, so that QBs can have footballs the way they like them.

I knew NFL teams prepped the footballs, but didn't know it went to such extremes as shown in your links. It does make it seem even sillier that the league would concern itself about whether the air pressure was the same for the footballs used by individual QBs on every team.

It's not like baseball where monkeying with the ball really can give a pitcher an advantage since the opponent has to hit the thing with a bat.

120 posted on 01/25/2019 9:54:53 AM PST by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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