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To: taxcontrol

All born with other citizenships, not naturally an American.
One is only naturally an American when one cannot be anything else.
They are born with only ONE nationality.
That is the quality the founders were seeking.
Someone who was only an American.


62 posted on 01/23/2019 3:51:18 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Other nations laws are irrelevant with regards to US citizenship. It does not matter if some other nation grants citizenship at birth. Only US laws apply. And US laws say that all were born as US citizens and do not need to be naturalized.


73 posted on 01/23/2019 4:05:06 PM PST by taxcontrol
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Okay, here's a real-life situation: My great-grandfather came here from Italy in 1913 and was naturalized, renouncing his Italian citizenship, in 1943. Between those two dates, my grandfather was born and under Italian law, he was an Italian citizen (as the son of an Italian citizen). He never knew he had it, and thus never renounced it. My mother then inherited citizenship from him, and I from her.

If I go into an Italian consulate with all the paperwork indicating that chain --birth certificates, naturalization papers, marriage certificates, etc.--I can get an Italian passport. Understand, this isn't applying for Italian citizenship. This is proving that I'm already an Italian citizen.

So, here I am, the third generation born on US soil, but Italian law says I'm also an Italian citizen. Am I a natural born citizen?

83 posted on 01/23/2019 4:16:23 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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