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To: Lurkinanloomin
Okay, here's a real-life situation: My great-grandfather came here from Italy in 1913 and was naturalized, renouncing his Italian citizenship, in 1943. Between those two dates, my grandfather was born and under Italian law, he was an Italian citizen (as the son of an Italian citizen). He never knew he had it, and thus never renounced it. My mother then inherited citizenship from him, and I from her.

If I go into an Italian consulate with all the paperwork indicating that chain --birth certificates, naturalization papers, marriage certificates, etc.--I can get an Italian passport. Understand, this isn't applying for Italian citizenship. This is proving that I'm already an Italian citizen.

So, here I am, the third generation born on US soil, but Italian law says I'm also an Italian citizen. Am I a natural born citizen?

83 posted on 01/23/2019 4:16:23 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
"Am I a natural born citizen?"

If you were born in the country to Citizens parents, then yes, you are a natural born Citizen.

87 posted on 01/23/2019 4:21:25 PM PST by Godebert
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Not if you can be claimed by Italy or can claim Italian citizenship.


89 posted on 01/23/2019 4:22:05 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
When your great grandfather naturalized, it bestowed what is called "derivative" citizenship on all of his children. (if they were minors at the time.) Your Grandfather became a US citizen at the same time your Grandfather did. Your Grandfather was naturalized, or if born here, had 14th amendment citizenship. All his children are natural born.
113 posted on 01/24/2019 8:00:55 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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