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Astronomers use split images of quasars to produce a new estimate of the Hubble constant
Phys.org ^ | January 22, 2019 | University of California, Los Angeles

Posted on 01/22/2019 2:38:36 PM PST by ETL

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Image from the Hubble Space Telescope of a doubly imaged quasar.
Credit: NASA Hubble Space Telescope, Tommaso Treu/UCLA, and Birrer et al
1 posted on 01/22/2019 2:38:36 PM PST by ETL
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What Is The Hubble Constant?

By Elizabeth Howell, Space.com Contributor | August 27, 2018

The Hubble Constant is the unit of measurement used to describe the expansion [rate] of the universe. The cosmos has been getting bigger since the Big Bang kick-started the growth about 13.82 billion years ago. [I]n fact, it's getting faster in its acceleration as it gets bigger.

What's interesting about the expansion is not only the rate, but also the implications, according to NASA. If the expansion begins to slow down, that implies that there is something in the universe that is making the growth slow down — perhaps dark matter, which can't be sensed with conventional instruments. If the growth gets faster, though, it's possible that dark energy is pushing the expansion faster.

As of January 2018, measurements from multiple telescopes showed that the rate of expansion of the universe is different depending on where you look.

The nearby universe (measured by the Hubble Space Telescope and Gaia space telescope) has a rate of expansion of 45.6 miles per second per megaparsec, while the more distant background universe (measured by the Planck telescope) is a bit slower, expanding at 41.6 miles per second per megaparsec. A megaparsec is a million parsecs, or about 3.3 million light-years, so this is almost unimaginably fast. 

Discovery by Hubble

The constant was first proposed by Edwin Hubble (the namesake for the Hubble Space Telescope). Hubble was an American astronomer who studied galaxies, particularly those that are far away from us.

In 1929 — based on a realization from astronomer Harlow Shapley that galaxies appear to be moving away from the Milky Way — Hubble found that the farther these galaxies are from Earth, the faster they appear to be moving, according to NASA.

While scientists then understood the phenomenon to be galaxies moving away from each other, today astronomers know that what is actually being observed is the expansion of the universe. No matter where you are located in the cosmos, you would see the same phenomenon happening at the same speed.

Hubble's initial calculations have been refined over the years, as more and more sensitive telescopes have been used to make the measurements, including Hubble and Gaia (which examined a kind of variable star called Cepheid variables) and other telescopes that extrapolated the constant based on measurements of the cosmic microwave background — a constant background temperature in the universe that is sometimes called the "afterglow" of the Big Bang. ..."

https://www.space.com/25179-hubble-constant.html


2 posted on 01/22/2019 2:38:49 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: SunkenCiv; brytlea; cripplecreek; decimon; disndat; KoRn; Grammy; steelyourfaith; Mmogamer; ...

Big Bang Bing, i mean, Big Bang Ping!


3 posted on 01/22/2019 2:42:02 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

As I sit in my recliner pondering the speed of the earth around the sun which in turn is in rotation through the galaxy which in turn is speeding through the universe, I figure added all up I’m going about a million miles per hour which explains why I feel so tired at my age.


4 posted on 01/22/2019 2:42:37 PM PST by BipolarBob (Occasional-Cortex " Just because I don't know what Armageddon means, it's not the end of the world".)
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To: BipolarBob
As I sit in my recliner pondering the speed of the earth around the sun...

That speed is ~66,000 miles per hour (18 miles per second).

So if anyone nags you about sitting in your chair all day, "not going anywhere", show them this.

There are 3,600 seconds in an hour.

That's 18 x 3,600 MILES you've traveled every hour you were sitting on your butt!

5 posted on 01/22/2019 2:48:41 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

wonder if the Comma of Pythagoras fits into this theory?


6 posted on 01/22/2019 3:00:46 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: ETL

H0LiCOW == H0 [abbreviation for Hubble constant] Lenses in COSMOGRAIL’s Wellspring

Phil Rizzuto could not be reached for comment…


7 posted on 01/22/2019 3:02:11 PM PST by mikrofon (Old New Year 2019 BUMP)
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To: ETL

From the Universe’s perspective, I understand we are all traveling 1.3 million mph, give or take...


8 posted on 01/22/2019 3:07:10 PM PST by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: ETL

Light from the two images takes different routes to Earth. When the quasar’s brightness fluctuates, the two images flicker one after another, rather than at the same time. The delay in time between those two flickers, along with information about the meddling galaxy’s gravitational field, can be used to trace the light’s journey and deduce the distances from Earth to both the quasar and the foreground galaxy. Knowing the redshifts of the quasar and galaxy enabled the scientists to estimate how quickly the universe is expanding.

...

Clever. I wish I would have thought of it.


9 posted on 01/22/2019 3:12:40 PM PST by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: C210N
From the Universe’s perspective, I understand we are all traveling 1.3 million mph, give or take...

They say that there is no one, universal reference frame by which to calculate "absolute" velocity, or position. However, the Colby Cosmic Microwave Background *may* be such a reference frame. Within it we can see the movement of our Milky Way galaxy.

10 posted on 01/22/2019 3:13:31 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: C210N
Question: Why can’t the CMB be a universal reference frame?

I think you are asking if the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) can be used as an absolute frame of reference for the objects in the universe.

Over a period of observational years we can get an idea on the density of the CMB to create an image like this:

However, this is an accumulation of samples that have reached us during the few decades we have known the CMB was there and recorded it. If you are looking at a GRB 5 billion light years away or a type II super nova 300 million light years away you are getting a high resolution image of a specific local event that happened 5 B or 300 M years ago. But the CMB is everywhere in the observable universe and faint at about 2.73 K.

We can make some assumptions based on CMB we can see now, but between expansion, gravitation effects, and time we can not rely on the CMB as being a absolute reference frame, as what we can see now does not necessarily indicate what changes the CMB is going through the farther away it is.

So the CMB is A frame of reference, but not THE frame of reference. As shown by Special Relativity, every frame of reference is equally valid. So if you are observing from different relativistic reference positions the CMB is going to appear to have very different wavelength, directions, etc. The following is a image showing red shifting and blue shifting of CMB reaching our detectors…its obvious the CMB is not simply spreading symmetrically from a “central point”.

CMB red and blue shifting, density, rotation are going to tell us more about relatively local areas of space, ie. the rotation of our galaxy or Andromeda and the Milky Way moving towards each other at a closing speed of ~ 110 km/s, but the farther away an object is the less information the CMB can tell us about that object’s relative motion to it.

Bottom line: CMB is a useful frame of reference but not an absolute frame of reference that would allow us to pretend that it is THE resting position of the universe. Areas of the CMB are in motion relative to other areas of the CMB, even after accounting the fact each part of it is moving at c.

https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-the-CMB-be-a-universal-reference-frame

11 posted on 01/22/2019 3:22:48 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: C210N

From the CMB data it is seen that the earth appears to be moving at 368±2 km/s relative to the reference frame of the CMB (also called the CMB rest frame, or the frame of reference in which there is no motion through the CMB).[84]

The Local Group (the galaxy group that includes the Milky Way galaxy) appears to be moving at 627±22 km/s in the direction of galactic longitude l = 276°±3°, b = 30°±3°.[85][86]

This motion results in an anisotropy of the data (CMB appearing slightly warmer in the direction of movement than in the opposite direction).[87]

From a theoretical point of view, the existence of a CMB rest frame breaks Lorentz invariance even in empty space far away from any galaxy.[88]

The standard interpretation of this temperature variation is a simple velocity red shift and blue shift due to motion relative to the CMB, but alternative cosmological models can explain some fraction of the observed dipole temperature distribution in the CMB.[89]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_background#CMBR_dipole_anisotropy


12 posted on 01/22/2019 3:28:19 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

Thanks ETL.

Interesting, but will take time to digest that!

I think my 1.3 mil is from a vsauce episode :-)


13 posted on 01/22/2019 3:35:16 PM PST by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: ETL

Good info, thanks. God must be amused and pleased at the efforts to understand His Creation. He certainly has a great sense of humor.


14 posted on 01/22/2019 4:05:03 PM PST by nickedknack
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To: ETL

their H0liCOW collaboration


Holy cow. LOL


15 posted on 01/22/2019 4:28:44 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: ETL

Not only that, but the absolute direction and speed of the planet’s motion is measured by the Doppler shift of the cosmic background radiation.


16 posted on 01/22/2019 4:33:22 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Moonman62

Lensing galaxies are a relatively new discovery. The newspapers reported astronomers finding McDonald’s arches in the galaxy, and couldn’t figure it out for a while.


17 posted on 01/22/2019 4:36:43 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: ETL

Thanks ETL, bfl.


18 posted on 01/22/2019 8:32:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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Thanks ETL.

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19 posted on 01/22/2019 10:46:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: ETL
That's 18 x 3,600 MILES you've traveled every hour you were sitting on your butt!

Woo Hoo! I can eat that pizza now!

20 posted on 01/23/2019 3:24:12 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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