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MLK vs Malcolm X - YOutube video
Youtube ^ | May 7, 2011 | Raymond Fisher

Posted on 01/21/2019 10:32:23 AM PST by Textide

This 8:48 video shows the differences between MLK Jr and Malcolm X. Though not a direct debate, it shows the difference between them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4PqLKWuwyU

MLK makes the point that the goal is integration, while Malcolm X shows no solutions and simply points out the oppression of black people. In recent years, since Obama, it seems that Malcolm X's brand of race relations has won out.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: malcolmx; mlk

1 posted on 01/21/2019 10:32:23 AM PST by Textide
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To: Textide
MLK believed integration would solve intractable problems in the black community.

X was a black separatist. He asked why blacks keep depending on the grandchildren of the white slave owners to solve their problems. The white man caused problems in the black community. They couldn't be counted on to help blacks.

"After introducing herself, she confronted Malcolm and his associates with this question: “Don’t you believe there are any good white people?” He said to her: “People’s deeds I believe in, Miss, not their words.”

She then exclaimed: “What can I do?” Malcolm said: “Nothing.” A moment later she burst into tears, ran out to Lenox Avenue, and disappeared by taxi into the world."

2 posted on 01/21/2019 10:43:19 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

The woman asking the question was white

https://www.hipforums.com/forum/threads/malcom-x.339510/


3 posted on 01/21/2019 11:02:57 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Textide

“The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked or deceived by the white liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America, the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man.”

Malcolm X


4 posted on 01/21/2019 11:04:07 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: yesthatjallen

Well one thing Malcolm X did get right was understanding that White Liberals were the worst enemies of black people.


5 posted on 01/21/2019 11:04:18 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: HangnJudge

He was right on that one.


6 posted on 01/21/2019 11:04:48 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Textide

I think that MLK and Malcolm X had an understanding, where it was Malcolm’s job to show himself as the only alternative if MLK failed in his objective. Sort of “Good cop/bad cop”.


7 posted on 01/21/2019 11:13:30 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: dfwgator
If you look at him objectively his message was blacks had to be self-reliant and not dependent on whites.

MLK thought integration (presumably with well-meaning whites) was the answer.

X said some provocative things which ticked off people but he wanted to get the attention of blacks and he wanted blacks to wake up and stop expecting the white man (grandchildren of slave masters) to save them.

8 posted on 01/21/2019 11:14:32 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Other than the religion aspect of Malcolm X, I am more on board with him than MLK.

For blacks to truly integrate, they needed to gain their self-respect first. Nobody was going to give it to them.


9 posted on 01/21/2019 11:16:32 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: HangnJudge

I agree with Malcolm. Some sort of peaceful separation is the answer.

How many more decades of evidence does one need to come to the conclusions that blacks and whites simply cannot get along peacefully together.

There’s a very basic reason for this, but nobody dares talk about it.


10 posted on 01/21/2019 12:48:54 PM PST by aquila48
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To: yesthatjallen

It should be noted that this debate took place in 1963. At the time of his death Malcolm X was moderating many of his views which included denouncing racism of any kind. This moderation lead to his leaving the Nation of Islam and as a consequence his assassination allegedly on the orders of Louis Farrakhan.


11 posted on 01/21/2019 12:58:00 PM PST by MichaelRDanger
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This moderation lead to his leaving the Nation of Islam and as a consequence his assassination allegedly on the orders of Louis Farrakhan.

True.

12 posted on 01/21/2019 12:58:34 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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