HELL. Is it real? What does the Bible really say?

Sermon Index ^ | David Wilkerson

[RevelationDavid]

HELL, is there really a place where those who deny Jesus Christ spend eternity?

Do you care? Take the time to listen to David Wilkerson preach this powerful and timely message.

Blessings to all those who love Christ.

Link below:

http://ia800307.us.archive.org/17/items/SERMONINDEX_SID0319/SID0319.mp3

[onedoug]

Deuteronomy IV:19 & Malachi I:11

[Pilgrim's Progress]

It’s enough that you don’t mind going to hell, but to drag others with you because of your foolish post is inexcusable and your eternity will be accompanied with a great millstone about your neck.

[BlackbirdSST]

We could always ask Pope Francis. Wonder what he would say.

[FNU LNU]

Comparison of Jesus’ Teaching on Gehenna
vs. Roman Catholicism on Hell

1. As we’ve seen in this study, Jesus taught that Gehenna was escapable, while Roman Catholicism teaches that Hell is inescapable.

2. Jesus taught only one future occurrence of the punishment of Gehenna, while Roman Catholicism teaches Hell is eternal and unending.

3. Jesus taught that the punishment of Gehenna was in only in his generation, while Roman Catholicism teaches it’s for all generations.

4. Jesus taught that the punishment of Gehenna was a physical judgment, while Roman Catholicism teaches Hell is a spiritual judgment.

5. Jesus warned that the punishment of Gehenna was a regional judgment involving people in Judea, while Roman Catholicism teaches Hell is global and universal.

6. Jesus taught that mortal souls, living humans would go to Gehenna, while Roman Catholicism teaches that immortal spirits will go to Hell.

7. Jesus taught that Gehenna would be physical punishment, while Roman Catholicism teaches that spiritual punishing would be carried out on immortal spirits.

8. Jesus taught that the punishment in Gehenna was to avenge martyrs, while Roman Catholicism makes no connection to avenging martyrs in Hell.

9. Jesus taught that Gehenna was to be the end of Old Covenant Israel, while Roman Catholicism teaches nothing about Hell in relation to Old Covenant Israel.

10. Gehenna was known to Moses and the Prophets, the Roman Catholic concept of Hell is unknown to Moses and the Prophets.

11. Gehenna didn’t need translating, Roman Catholicism didn’t translate Gehenna, but substituted Hell for it.

12. There was no eternal conscious torment in Gehenna, like there is in the Roman Catholic concept of Hell.

13. The warnings of punishment in Gehenna originated with Jesus, the doctrine of eternal conscious torment originated in Egypt.

14. The location of Gehenna is well known, the location of Hell in the spiritual realm is unknown.

15. Photographs of Gehenna are readily available, while there are no photographs of Roman Catholicism’s concept of Hell.

16. All of these characteristics of Gehenna are in the Bible, while none of Roman Catholicism’s concept of Hell is in the Bible.

17. The Roman Catholic Encyclopedia admits that the Catholic Church knows full well where Gehenna is, but have no idea where hell is, i.e., that hell is not Gehenna, nor is it a translation for Gehenna.

18. Gehenna and Hell are not the same in any way.

[PeterPrinciple]

since that will be the only place without God,

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Just a thought. All the cartoons we watched as a kid taught us that the devil rules in hell, but is that true? The major point being from where do we get our understanding?

If God is omnipresent, we are left with a mystery about God’s role.

[gibsonguy]

Gavin Newsom is the Governor

[RevelationDavid]

Hell in not the ‘devils wrath’.....it is GODS wrath. The Devil will suffer throughout eternity...just as will most of mankind.

GOD rules hell.

[ShadowAce]

No—Lucifer does not rule in Hell. No one does. It’s a place of burning, solitude, and suffering.

[RevelationDavid]

Pilgrim,....a meditative thought for the day....

“”Those christians who belong to the evangelical wing of the church (which I firmly believe is the only one that even approximates New Testament christianity) have over the last half century shown an increasing impatience with things invisible and eternal and have demanded and got a host of things visible and temporal to satisfy their fleshly appetites.” - A. W. Tozer

Blessing to you in Christ.

[CharlesOConnell]

CS Lewis (the Great Divorce?, about day-trippers from hell to the lower reaches of Heaven), says that Heaven is man to God “Thy Will Be Done”, hell is God to man “thy will be done”. Hell isn’t other people (JP Sartre), it’s ourselves alone with ourselves, forever.

[RevelationDavid]

Did you have time to listen to David’s message Charles?

I know your would value it.

Blessings to you.

[Roman_War_Criminal]

Folks can deny hell exists all they want, doesn’t mean it’s not there.

Mattew 7:13-14
13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Most people - probably well north of 95% ever born end up in hell. Jesus said “few” and judging by the living standards & beliefs of today’s modern people that fits like a glove.

John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Only Christ saves! Amen!

[easternsky]

Thanks He is one of the best, even though no longer with us on Earth His messages still ring out the Truth of the Word.

[aimhigh]

I was an adherent of ECT (eternal conscious torment) until I actually studied it. I’m now CI (conditional immortality).

I had the same experience. Ditto.

[chuckles]

I understand what you are saying about the RCC, but Hell, Sheol, Hades, ect are translated from the word "grave". Tartarus is a place where demons are held, but the "lake of fire" is the final resting place for Satan and people that don't accept Jesus.

Rev 20:14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Rev 20:15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Hades is the grave where you are held until the White Throne Judgement. The Lake of Fire is the second death. Everyone that dies in Christ only dies once. If you are alive when He comes, your body will be left behind to receive your new resurrection body that can stand in the proximity of God without burning up and lives forever without sickness. Your flesh should die in the Baptismal and be left behind. Circumcision is the Hebrew expression of cutting off useless flesh and burying it to separate yourself to God. Spiritually speaking, you should leave a fleshly dead body at Baptism and be raised as a "new creature" in the Spirit. The only way to be a "Son of God" is for God to "Father" you. God is Spirit.

Jesus complained many times about people that had ears that didn't hear and eyes that couldn't see. He is speaking of people not born of the Spirit.

You are free to believe what you want, but you will be separated from God if you are NOT reborn. If people want to gamble that they will not be in eternal fire, that's their gamble. But if you are separated from God, He is the life source so you will not have life. Jesus ( written in red writing ) told of a man named Lazarus and a rich man. The rich man wasn't having a pleasant day. Before Jesus died on the cross, people were held in this place. When Jesus died, He went to Hell, Sheol, Grave, whatever you want to call this place and set the captives free. Today, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

[Mom MD]

Really. Heaven and hell I can find in the Bible Where in the Bible is purgatory?

[Mom MD]

I’m not sure he even believes in Jesus a Christian orthodoxy understands it

[HarleyD]

Luk 16:19-24  “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day.  And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores,  who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores.  The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.  And he called out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’ 

Christ talked about the rich ruler and Lazarus. He did not paint a very plesant picture of where the rich ruler would spend eternity. As far as what it means to different "Christians", it is immaterial. Christians can have some pretty wacky ideas and very little has to do with scripture. Hades is hell. Can't be any clearer no matter how one wants to parse the words.

There is not a more loving act then God sending His Son to suffer and die for us. There is not a more unkind act then to reject God's offer.

[chris37]

Dunno.

Heard about it when I was a kid from some adult who taught me.

[marron]

I’ve heard all the arguments between eternal torment, versus soul-death.

I want Door #3. I want to walk with God through eternity.

And, of course, if you want to walk with God in eternity, you may as well start now. If on the other hand, you didn’t want to walk with God here, why would you suddenly want to walk with him... forever? If you want God, you can choose Him and eternity now. Look up and start walking.