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The elite medieval knights who were bankers and brawlers
We are the mighty ^ | Jan 12, 2019 | N/A

Posted on 01/12/2019 4:40:33 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

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1 posted on 01/12/2019 4:40:33 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

The rest of their wealth is on Oak Island, Tuesday nights.


2 posted on 01/12/2019 4:49:10 PM PST by Cold Heart (The main purpose of The Wall is to protect the US from its own politicians.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

And then the Catholic Church and a French king suffering under some avarice killed and libeled them...


3 posted on 01/12/2019 4:53:05 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Cold Heart

LOL!

I laugh every time my brother turns on that program.

He is just fascinated with it....


4 posted on 01/12/2019 4:55:16 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Interesting. I think some of my ancestors had been Templars in Jerusalem. Maybe, around 1150? Anyway, they were elevated to some sort of minor royalty in Spain (before it was joined together to become Spain. Obviously, they were out of Jerusalem before it fell to the Muslims. I have the info on a different computer. Pretty foreign stuff for a little ol’ Baptist girl lol.


5 posted on 01/12/2019 4:55:27 PM PST by TennesseeGirl
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To: TennesseeGirl

Cool stuff. If you ever access it please share.


6 posted on 01/12/2019 4:58:08 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Cold Heart
"The rest of their wealth is on Oak Island, Tuesday nights."

And they're going to be battling it out in hand-to-hand combat in Knight Fight, which starts on the History Channel on 1/23/19.

7 posted on 01/12/2019 5:09:40 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Jet Jaguar

It’s in Spanish; I had to use an online translation so it’s pretty ugly—the English translation. At some point some of the brothers and families imigrated to Genoa. Centuries later, here we are in Virginia before the Revolutionary War. I’ll find it in a couple days and send it to you.


8 posted on 01/12/2019 5:10:20 PM PST by TennesseeGirl
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I look forward to it. Thanks.


9 posted on 01/12/2019 5:14:42 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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I had to use an online translation so it’s pretty ugly - The English translation”

So it’s not unlike today’s journalism.


10 posted on 01/12/2019 5:28:10 PM PST by Cold Heart (The main purpose of The Wall is to protect the US from its own politicians.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

When I watch TV and hear what they were accused of I have to wonder How much is true. After Al the were imprisoned and killed. Who was available to tell their side. Vatican has not been the most upright source over the ages and the Kingof of France wanted to seem noble. These 2 groups wrote the history accounts.


11 posted on 01/12/2019 5:30:53 PM PST by Retvet (Retvet)
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Coincidently the French King owed a lot of money to the Templars. Probably where the phrase, kill two birds with one stone came lol.


12 posted on 01/12/2019 9:27:56 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: TennesseeGirl

Hi, TennesseeGirl -

Could you send to me a copy of it, as well?

My beloved is fascinated with the Templars.

As a side note, an aunt on my mom’s side did a genealogy and I couldn’t help but notice how fascinating was the family’s history.

As it comes down to our current times, the lives seem to be so much duller...safer, yes; duller, yes.


13 posted on 01/12/2019 9:45:20 PM PST by Notthereyet (NotThereYet)
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To: Jet Jaguar

The antagonist in Ivanhoe.


14 posted on 01/12/2019 9:59:03 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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My 92 year old father has no concept of reality television. He saw Oak Island on the TV guide and said, “It must be a documentary, let’s watch it”. Uh, no, dad.


15 posted on 01/12/2019 10:05:33 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Jet Jaguar
The check was invented so that the knights on crusade could have access to their funds back in Europe.


The first bank to accept checks written by its customers was located on Venice's Grand Canal, about a pizza's throw from the Rialto bridge. The building is still there but now it's a wine bar.

16 posted on 01/13/2019 12:18:28 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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“. Much of the Templars’ massive financial assets were handed over to the Knights Hospitallers, but some was kept by rulers like French King Philip IV who used it to refresh his own coffers.

The Knights Hospitallers, a religious order focused on providing medical services, was slightly older than the Knights Templar, but the Knights Hospitallers had acquired a military mission similar to that of the Knights Templar in the 12th Century, and so it was an obvious heir to the Templar wealth.”


Is there any evidence online for these claims? I’d appreciate it - thanks.


17 posted on 01/13/2019 3:26:41 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Interestingly, while suppressed in France and England, the Templar’s endured in Spain and Portugal, merely changing their name to “Order of Christ.”


18 posted on 01/13/2019 5:27:08 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: PIF

Unknown.


19 posted on 01/13/2019 7:28:29 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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Then, as far as I know, the Knight’s treasure was never recovered nor did any of it end up in Philip’s or the Hospitallers’ possession. So that part is just fantasy or speculation. Phil went broke as I recall because of the lack of funds and died shortly after the execution of de Molay - as did Clement.

More speculation is the before the roundup, the Knights learned they would be taken and spirited both their treasure and fleet away - both of which simply disappeared from history. Maybe the gold etc went to Scotland and certainly many of the surviving Knights

Just a mystery of history that remains unsolved.


20 posted on 01/13/2019 7:56:59 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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