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Mathematicians Discovered a Computer Problem that No One Can Ever Solve
livescience.com ^ | January 11, 2019 08:08am ET | By Rafi Letzter,

Posted on 01/12/2019 5:15:03 AM PST by BenLurkin

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To: BenLurkin

And this is why kids don’t like math.


81 posted on 01/12/2019 6:27:48 AM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: BenLurkin

Used to be, physics drove math, that is, observation of nature resulted in the observation of certain relationships that were quantifiable via ‘figures’ and ‘counting’ and that became the basis for ‘math’.

Now we have the tail wagging the dog, so to speak. Math thinks it can create physics ...


82 posted on 01/12/2019 6:28:42 AM PST by _Jim (democrats create mobs. Republicans create jobs.)
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To: BenLurkin

If you accept infinity as a concept rather than a number, this problem is not too difficult.


83 posted on 01/12/2019 6:30:26 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: LukeL

Kurt Godel has the only valid answer. An infinite number cannot be said to exist until it is described.


84 posted on 01/12/2019 6:30:31 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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To: BenLurkin

I abused myself by reading the article before morning coffee.


85 posted on 01/12/2019 6:31:57 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Sirius Lee

the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin.


A little background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F

still being asked and answered: https://forums.catholic.com/t/how-many-angels-can-dance-on-the-head-of-a-pin/251203/18


86 posted on 01/12/2019 6:33:17 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: poinq
"It will certainly not be based ten."

What do you have against base 10?

Won't any other base have the same problems?

87 posted on 01/12/2019 6:35:44 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: BenLurkin

I’m with your fellers...


88 posted on 01/12/2019 6:36:55 AM PST by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: Sacajaweau
re: "Has always driven me nuts that pi is an approximation."

You don't EVEN want to think about the "Fine-structure constant" then ...

“The strength of the familiar electromagnetic force between two electrons, for example, is expressed in physics in terms of a constant known as the fine structure constant. The value of this constant, almost exactly 1/137, has puzzled many generations of physicists. A joke made about the famous English physicist Paul Dirac (1902-1984), one of the founders of quantum mechanics, says that upon arrival to heaven he was allowed to ask God one question. His question was: "Why 1/137?”

― Mario Livio, The Golden Ratio: The Story of Phi, the World's Most Astonishing Number

89 posted on 01/12/2019 6:37:13 AM PST by _Jim (democrats create mobs. Republicans create jobs.)
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To: BenLurkin

All of this is correct, it just doesn’t matter.


90 posted on 01/12/2019 6:37:13 AM PST by Agatsu77
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To: BenLurkin

Just like the points on Who’s Line is it Anyway.


91 posted on 01/12/2019 6:37:48 AM PST by Agatsu77
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To: BenLurkin
I can postulate an infinity set that is larger than the set of integers, but smaller than real numbers. It's quite easy.

It's the set of tenths. 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, etc.

Then you have the set of hundredths, thousandths, and so on.

Seems pretty obvious.

92 posted on 01/12/2019 6:41:47 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Sacajaweau

I like pecan pi......


93 posted on 01/12/2019 6:42:07 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: unread

“I simply accept infinite means what it means.”
Yeah but, maybe infinite doesn’t mean what it means... Like, maybe this isn’t Saturday... Maybe it’s really Tuesday... Maybe up isn’t really that, but in fact, it’s down...hmmmm


oh, you mean liberal thinking, just say so.


94 posted on 01/12/2019 6:42:12 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: BenLurkin

Leave it to mathematicians to create a problem with no solution. I know a lot of people like this.

That said, the solution is simple. Don’t conceptualize infinity as a number or having size. That makes no logical sense. Therefore the hypothesis is false because it is based on seeing infinity as a number itself!

Is this an existential fallacy?

I have no idea what I’m talking about.


95 posted on 01/12/2019 6:44:03 AM PST by refreshed (But we preach Christ crucified... 1 Corinthians 1:23)
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To: jagusafr
"Mental masturbation, IMHO..."

Yep, the same kind of mental masturbation Einstein did.

His mental masturbation produced the understanding of magnetism, our GPS system, explained the color of gold, why mercury is liquid at room temperature, the invention of the television, our observations of space (light bending), predicted the existence of black holes, predicted that time "slows down" with velocity, invention of the atomic bomb, etc.

96 posted on 01/12/2019 6:45:09 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Sirius Lee

>> When math meets the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin. <<

The actual answer by Aquinas is not only NOT absurd, but absolutely foundational to the understanding of the physical world around us: things which are not composed of matter do not have volume.


97 posted on 01/12/2019 6:47:23 AM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. Athanasius)
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To: Texas Eagle

Only the odd numbered ones...


98 posted on 01/12/2019 6:47:54 AM PST by shotgun
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To: Moonman62

GOD told us the answer himself long ago: ‘I AM that I AM”


99 posted on 01/12/2019 6:56:32 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortnes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Chengdu54

Intuitively obvious upon casual observation.


100 posted on 01/12/2019 6:56:52 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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