Posted on 01/06/2019 12:29:56 AM PST by logi_cal869
I recalled the movie as a mix of time travel & possession. Since it was streaming, I wanted to fill in the blanks. I got more than I bargained for.
You miss the point and you obviously didn’t see the film: Despite others’ conflicting views, when he “blacks out” it is his older self possessing his younger self & in full control.
Thus when the writers portrayed the 7 year-olds in the basement as naked and he snaps out of his stupor, his older self had just finished possessing him and, as we learned later in the film, they “engaged”.
Sick. I missed it the first time and now I wonder what I missed in other movies. I’ll be scrutinizing them more carefully when there are children from now on.
Letters: I’m referring to pointing out to organizations who go after these preverts becoming aware to hopefully turn around this disturbing trend. You can go back to your head in the sand now...
FUPOS. From the bottom of my heart. You will pray we never meet.
You are free to delete this thread. I was hoping to raise awareness of hidden messages in a movie and all I did was discover FR has some very, very disturbed members.
I really don’t care to read these comments in the future. Please make it go away and the topic will never be broached by me here in the future.
I have seen the film and I understand the point. You’re the one off in never never land. Remember he’s changing key points trying to save the girl. Part of the reason for the blackouts is that it’s a point of change. In that sequence he tried to move it so instead of the girl getting molested it was him. He was sacrificing himself. You’re still missing it.
I have the movie on DVD and, in my case, the Christian conversion of the brother was the most disturbing part. This one flew right under my radar. Good catch.
The Christian coversion part was troubling because it suggests that events determined whether God chose him or not.
Never saw this movie and don’t know anything about it but it does not surprise me; it’s important to put the name of the screenwriter and director out there if you have found this pedophilia disguised as art. Who’s doing it,and keep them away from child actors.
No, I didn’t. If what you describe were true, then he would have changed the basement experience and he would have remembered.
He did not: He never remembered and she had to tell him what happened.
If your POV is what the writers intended, he would not have blacked out in the basement in one of the opening scenes; rather, he would have prompted a blackout later as he went back to change it. Thus it was lousy editing, reckless writing or with intent. Given what we now know of the movie industry, I’m no longer in denial of what I saw. Other FReepers, not so much.
Let me put it this way: I would have written the same comment as you until I watched it again last night. Apparently I did not hear her tell him what happened in the basement the first time I saw it (poor audio; she was whispering; I had to replay it 4 times). Once I heard that line, the remainder of the movie was spent biting my lip as I reviewed my interpretation and only 2 hours later posted my thoughts here.
Thus, to have an honest interpretation you would need to watch it again.
However, National Lampoon’s Vacation thinks pedophilia is hilarious.
Rocky Horror picture show begins with two rapes.
And Sixteen Candles ends with a rape.
Trying to remember the National Lampoon one. Is it the little girl joking about how daddy something? I can’t remember.
Rocky Horror has Tim Curry’s character going into both their bedrooms and seducing them. They assume he is their partner at first. They are of age and they don’t say no. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it but I don’t think there was forced sex?
And is Sixteen Candles the one with Molly Ringwald where she ends up with the hot guy at her school? Are you saying it was rape because he might be older than 17? We have to draw a line at consent on a certain year, but I think even the court system is quite lenient on two consenting high school kids both over 16 and under 19.
I’m in a lifelong battle against pedophilia or glorifying it, but I’m unsure that any of those three have anything to do with such.
My point exactly. I can accept differing opinions, but I never expected to be labeled a pedophile by a FReeper.
I’ve asked for this thread to be deleted.
Thanks for validating my intent, even though you didn’t see the movie.
I was hoping to raise awareness of hidden messages in a movie and all I did was discover FR has some very, very disturbed members.
This post is disturbing to me.
The eloquent posters responding to you here saw the movie, UNDERSTAND YOUR CURRENT TAKE ON IT, and from the clear point of film plot analysis disagree with you and share carefully written reasons why they take the plot completely differently from you.
Then here you call them DISTURBING. As if disagreeing with you on whether a plot is secretly pro-Pedo MAKES THESE FREEPERS PEDOPHILES BY DEFAULT.
This is so wrong and ad hominem of you that it actually even hurts your plot interpretation of the movie.
I have missed anyone labeling you a pedophile.
Again, I can accept differing opinions, but that comment is intolerable. It is within the thread. I will not cite it specifically.
If you or others have a problem with my choice of words, then perhaps the critique should be directed at that FReeper's heinous statement. Because certainly I'm putting up with a lot of shit for simply exposing that which I still believe to be sick hollywood perversions needlessly placed within the movie for no other reason than to groom others.
If you think there is something wrong with me because of my thoughts on this movie....You have issues you need to take care of. in no way do I think pedophilia is anything but evil. suggestion get help
Never saw the movie. However, unless a movie bills itself as anti-pedophilia, (or anti anything), whether it puts a positive or negative spin on it, it’s still desensitizing viewers to the subject matter, which is the purpose of including it. Desensitization is a common tool of perverts in the entertainment business -— keep pushing the envelope; keep exposing the public to things, in order to normalize it. It puts garbage that the average normal person never even thinks about, into our culture.
I suggest you apply some comprehension to what you read and what you watch.
And I liked the movie, too. Chaos theory.
I intensely disliked the entire scene though. It seemed gratuitous and you may well be correct about the reason why it was part of the film.
The usual pattern for gays though is to be drawn toward teens and young men, but with relatively few gays as pedophiles in the sense of being drawn to and abusing young children. Sadly, many teen victims of gay abuse go on to a lifetime of problems, with many who were hetero becoming bisexual or gay. The leaders of gay rights groups are said to often have a history of victimization as a triggering event.
The bottom line is that children have to be protected against everyone. It is with male teens that the risk of victimization by gays is highest.
You toss statements like that in person and I suggest taking up martial arts.
" only conclusion I can draw from your post is that if you touch on the subject you must be a pedophile"
Search the comments for yourself.
Ironically, you echo my reason for watching it again. I just never expected to become a target for my observations which, by the way, not a single person has been able to fully-refute. I can accept being wrong, but all I'm getting is stabbed in the back...something which happens with all-to-increasing frequency here...
Ironically, that was my interpretation the first time I watched it as well.
I dwelled upon the scene for 2 hours before posting this and rewatched a couple of segments. Had the scene later in the movie not included her explanation to Evan for what actually happened, I could ascribe it to an editing/writing error; it seems rather intentional in consideration of how they tied it together. “Gratuitous” is a good way to frame it.
Oh, I missed that, I am sorry. Someone did call you a pedophile. That is so wrong that you should hit abuse on the post. Sorry I missed that.
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