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How Soviets Came to Celebrate New Year’s Like Christmas (and Why Russians Still Do)
Foreign Policy ^ | Dec 30, 2016 | Emily Tamkin

Posted on 12/24/2018 4:50:15 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

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1 posted on 12/24/2018 4:50:15 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

If we date our calendar from the birth of Christ, should that be January 1st?


2 posted on 12/24/2018 4:55:59 PM PST by null and void (The Deep State is why even though our economy is booming, the stock market is losing ground.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Christmas is still being sorted out in that part of the world.

Ukraine only instated Western Christmas (December 25th) as a holiday last year. And Orthodox Christmas (January 7th) remains a holiday. Though this might switch to the 6th now if I’m not mistaken.


3 posted on 12/24/2018 4:56:20 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: null and void

I thought the birth was in the spring.


4 posted on 12/24/2018 5:01:21 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: null and void
If we date our calendar from the birth of Christ, should that be January 1st?

No. The New Covenant began with Jesus' circumcision--one week after His birth.

5 posted on 12/24/2018 5:02:19 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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Please cite the Biblical authority for the exact date of His birth.


6 posted on 12/24/2018 5:03:37 PM PST by null and void (The Deep State is why even though our economy is booming, the stock market is losing ground.)
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To: sparklite2

No one knows for sure, but it’s always been celebrated...from the 2nd Century at least, on Dec. 25, never the Spring.


7 posted on 12/24/2018 5:03:41 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

In Greece children receive gifts on New Years Day, from St. Basil (Agios Vasilis). Oddly enough, St. Basil is depicted exactly the way Santa Claus(St. Nicholas)is.

Christmas is celebrated on December 25th by the Greek Orthodox Church.


8 posted on 12/24/2018 5:04:37 PM PST by Yankee (Hillary's loss is tangable proof that God still blesses America.)
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To: AnalogReigns

Bionically, I understand, the context was springtime. Something about tending the sheep or such.


9 posted on 12/24/2018 5:10:00 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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Heh

Bionically = biblicaly.


10 posted on 12/24/2018 5:11:57 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
This is an incredibly ignorant and uninformed piece.

I cannot even address all the inaccuracies and it became too difficult to read after a time.

The Russian church uses the Julian calendar and always has...as do many other Orthodox churches in the world. It is often amusing to see people outside the church and esp those who have never been to Russia or spoken the language, spent any time in the culture, write pieces such as this proving themselves to be complete idiots as historians.

11 posted on 12/24/2018 5:12:17 PM PST by MarMema (don't forget to stock up on dogfood)
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The calendar is the same, they just observe the holidays on different dates. For now, businesses remain open on December 25th, but may close on the 7th of Jan etc...


12 posted on 12/24/2018 5:15:28 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: AnalogReigns
Only to jam Saturnalia.

If I were setting up the calendar, I wouldn't start it at Jesus' birth, that event was unremarkable as all men are born, and there is no Biblical fixing of his birthday. The few clues we have, the shepherds in the fields indicate spring or summer.

Nor would I start with the day of his death, as all men die.

The truly extraordinary thing, the defining moment of his gift of salvation was his resurrection, an event with a clear Biblical authority to the exact date.

That's what I would have used, it's unique as few come back from the dead, and it has a known date, and it is proof positive of the good news.

Still, I'll celebrate on December 25th, with the rest of us...

...MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

13 posted on 12/24/2018 5:19:53 PM PST by null and void (The Deep State is why even though our economy is booming, the stock market is losing ground.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

More evidence of the inherent evil of Communism.


14 posted on 12/24/2018 5:26:06 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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“Ukraine only instated Western Christmas (December 25th) as a holiday last year. And Orthodox Christmas (January 7th) remains a holiday. Though this might switch to the 6th now if I’m not mistaken.”
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I dunno on that. I do know I’ve a friend of Russian ancestry who uses it as an excuse not to take the Xmas tree until it absolutely, positively has to be thrown out. Christmas for lazy people and procrastinators, I guess.


15 posted on 12/24/2018 5:35:48 PM PST by LouieFisk
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An optimist would say “Communist Russia celebrates Christmas”.

A pessimist would say “the dates are wrong! What nonsense! Christ was not born on that day!” as if they actually knew the exact date of birth of our Lord.


16 posted on 12/24/2018 6:04:47 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: null and void

We don’t date our calendar from the birth of Christ. We date it from the perihelion, when the Earth is closest to the sun.


17 posted on 12/24/2018 6:16:20 PM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. Athanasius)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Bump


18 posted on 12/24/2018 6:17:51 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: dangus

The next perihelion is on 1/3/19, not the 1/1/19

http://www.astropixels.com/ephemeris/perap2001.html


19 posted on 12/24/2018 6:20:50 PM PST by null and void (The Deep State is why even though our economy is booming, the stock market is losing ground.)
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To: null and void

It would probably make more sense to date the start of the year from either the winter solstice or the spring equinox.


20 posted on 12/24/2018 6:26:35 PM PST by captain_dave
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