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1 posted on 12/19/2018 4:28:57 AM PST by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 12/19/2018 4:29:34 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Linux, isn’t that Lucy’s brother - the kid who always has his blanket?


3 posted on 12/19/2018 4:35:59 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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The main point is missing: WHY should I move to Linux?

I’m not being contrarian. I’m being serious. Most non-techies honestly wonder why anyone thinks they should do it.

And a second one: “Will it change the way I use all of my microsoft office software?”

And a third one: What about all my other windows based software? Will this make using it easier, or will it make it more complicated?

If you are going to sell someone a new car, or stereo, or toaster, you have to first show them why they want to make the change from what they already have.


6 posted on 12/19/2018 4:38:04 AM PST by cuban leaf
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This isn’t bad, but it’s still too techie. There is no way I’m going to teach people to make their own bootable flash drives as part of moving them to Linux unless it comes up in conversation as in, “Hey! How do you do that?” Otherwise, my goal in moving non-techies over to Linux is so they can surf the web and use Libre Office to write a letter or work with a spreadsheet on a system they cannot afford to replace or something I have lying about.


8 posted on 12/19/2018 4:42:06 AM PST by Dahoser
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To: ShadowAce

On a different subject, my keyboard no work.


9 posted on 12/19/2018 4:42:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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I’m eventually switching everything to Apple products.
I like to use technology, not diagnose technology.


12 posted on 12/19/2018 4:54:37 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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It can be perplexing and sometimes frustrating for newany users.

There, fixed it. I've been using Unix of one form or another since the late 1980s (work). I've been running Linux at home and at work for the last 14 years. Yet a few weeks back, the SSD in my home system started acting up (nearing end of life). I should mention that the SSD is used for the OS, and /home is mounted on a regular spinning drive... Simple swap for a new SSD and re-install, right?

Wrong. The same distro I've been using on my personal laptop and desktop, the one I've installed probably 6 or 8 times fooling around with it... Decided it didn't want to see the new SSD as a boot device. No amount of jacking around on the command line, nor fooling with GParted could make it do a simple install of bootable / on the SSD, and /home on the spinner...

I finally had to just do a "fresh" install of Linux onto the SSD - ignoring the spinning drive entirely. I felt stupid using all the beginner defaults... Then I went in and manually edited /etc/fstab to mount the spinner as /home.

I'm still a borederline Linux fanboy, but I will be the first to admit sometimes I just don't get it...

17 posted on 12/19/2018 5:08:25 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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The biggest thing I like about Linux is that you have control over your computer and software.

I really dislike the idea of allowing some company to alter my computing systems at will, without any idea of what they are doing, and why.

ShadowAce gave a pretty good list of the advantages.

18 posted on 12/19/2018 5:13:58 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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I do not currently have a need for Linux, but thought posting the following stats on hits to our web site during last Nov. would be interesting. According to this, we get more hits from Windows XP than Windows 10, while Google Android outdoes both, if not Windows 7 and Windows OS combined. But there are also those using Unknown systems.

Versions Pages Percent Hits Percent
Windows 8,172 44.9 % 8,629 45 %  
Windows XP 1,324 7.2 % 1,334 6.9 %

Windows Phone 21 0.1 % 21 0.1 %

Windows NT 39 0.2 % 39 0.2 %

Windows ME 5 0 % 5 0 %

Windows Vista (LongHorn) 82 0.4 % 86 0.4 %

Windows Mobile 6 0 % 6 0 %

Windows 98 6 0 % 6 0 %

Windows 95 2 0 % 2 0 %

Windows 8.1 140 0.7 % 156 0.8 %

Windows 8 67 0.3 % 72 0.3 %

Windows 7 5,326 29.3 % 5,471 28.5 %

Windows 2003 30 0.1 % 30 0.1 %

Windows 2000 30 0.1 % 31 0.1 %

Windows 10 1,094 6 % 1,370 7.1 %

BSD 12 0 % 12 0 %  
OpenBSD 11 0 % 11 0 %

FreeBSD 1 0 % 1 0 %

Linux 2,846 15.6 % 2,979 15.5 %  
Ubuntu 9 0 % 10 0 %

Centos 1 0 % 1 0 %

Google Android 1,852 10.1 % 1,978 10.3 %

GNU Linux (Unknown or unspecified distribution) 984 5.4 % 990 5.1 %

Macintosh 1,539 8.4 % 1,623 8.4 %  
Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks 11 0 % 15 0 %

Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion 1 0 % 5 0 %

Mac OS X 10.7 Lion 7 0 % 7 0 %

Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard 13 0 % 16 0 %

Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard 1 0 % 1 0 %

Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger 1 0 % 1 0 %

Mac OS X 10.12 Sierra 119 0.6 % 133 0.6 %

Mac OS X 10.11 El Capitan 112 0.6 % 117 0.6 %

Mac OS X 10.10 Yosemite 149 0.8 % 160 0.8 %

Mac OS X others 1,124 6.1 % 1,167 6 %

Mac OS 1 0 % 1 0 %

iOS 2,178 11.9 % 2,394 12.4 %  
iOS (iPhone) 1,968 10.8 % 2,149 11.2 %

iOS (iPad) 210 1.1 % 245 1.2 %

Others 3,419 18.8 % 3,519 18.3 %  
Unknown 3,222 17.7 % 3,289 17.1 %

Unknown Unix system 159 0.8 % 192 1 %

Sony PlayStation 19 0.1 % 19 0 %

BlackBerry 7 0 % 7 0 %

Nintendo Wii 6 0 % 6 0 %

Java Mobile 6 0 % 6 0 %




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19 posted on 12/19/2018 5:15:07 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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I use both.

Linux for work, in embedded systems and for embedded systems. I do not try to do powerpoint, excel, word, email, web.

Windoze for when I do try to do powerpoint, excel, word, email, web.


20 posted on 12/19/2018 5:17:30 AM PST by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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How old of a machine can I install it on and will it operate old scanners and printers that HP/windows has decided to try to make junk out of. I have an old really good scanner that vista and higher does not want me to use.


28 posted on 12/19/2018 5:41:12 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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It’s pretty easy to just put an ISO on a USB stick, then boot it and run it from the stick to get a feel and explore. I don’t know how much software they put on the image, though. Probably not much at all, but one can probably get a look at a desktop that way.

Live install images
https://www.debian.org/CD/live/

How do I write an ISO image under Windows?
https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#record-windows

Debian stretch — Installation Guide
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual

Linux Mint seems to be more popular with new users. It’s easier to install with more bells and whistles.

https://linuxmint.com/


33 posted on 12/19/2018 5:48:34 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Ah, here we are.

6 Best Linux Distributions for Beginners in 2018
https://itsfoss.com/best-linux-beginners/


36 posted on 12/19/2018 5:54:33 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Quick questions - quick answers appreciated.

1) How often do you need to end up on a command line to accomplish a necessary task?

2) For people with a need for standard web access, email, texting, word processing, Excel, PowerPoint, etc. what is the best shell?

3) With this command I think I could look at large file usage: “du -s * | sort -nr > $HOME/user_space_report.txt”

I assume this is case-sensitive?

4) Can you use Linux without command line necessities for #2 tasks?

I used to be a .Bat file expert, Quick Basic and assembly guy from the 80’s but along came GUI/Windows.

The Linux command line seems overly complex and unforgiving.

I wish they’d based the command line on the .Bat format but that’s just because it seems more straight-forward.

No rush - my only Linux experience was to make a boot-able thumbdrive to change some corrupted filenames with non-widows compatible characters to be accessible.

Lastly - sorry for the quick question suggestion at the beginning. ;-)


45 posted on 12/19/2018 6:16:16 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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I just purchased a 1 T SSD for my son and an additional 8 gigs of RAM. He is going to put it in his 1 year old Dell laptop and install Linux (probably Ubuntu Bundgie https://ubuntubudgie.org/). He is also going to install VitualBox (https://www.virtualbox.org/) and then install Windows 10 within a virtual machine. Any suggestions from anyone on this thread?
62 posted on 12/19/2018 7:56:47 AM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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bfl


80 posted on 12/27/2018 8:43:16 PM PST by citizen (President Trump: HeÂ’s combined The Art of the Deal with AlinskyÂ’s Rules For Radicals. Game over.)
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