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Beards: Manly or Impossible.

Posted on 12/16/2018 4:30:13 PM PST by RoosterRedux

I have had a big bushy gray beard for the last 6 months...my women friends like it (or so they say) and the rest of my friends seem to stand in awe.

It is certainly an expression of an inner self...but what is that inner self saying?

I have learned to groom this bush without the help of barber. I did go to a beard barber once, but he never asked me where I was headed re: my beard.

We need a thread here on FR about beards.

Folks who have never had one cannot know the joy...and the pain.


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To: a little elbow grease

101 posted on 12/17/2018 5:14:10 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: cuban leaf
I let mine grow out to a little over 2 inches, but then trimmed it back to about 1".

If I cut it back to under 1", it starts to itch again. That's unbearable.

102 posted on 12/17/2018 5:24:48 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: central_va
"...I grew a beard and started to look like an 19th century Civil War general..."

I have always thought that was a pretty good look on some guys, but it isn't for everyone!

103 posted on 12/17/2018 5:29:46 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: central_va
"I grew a beard and started to look like an 19th century Civil War general."

_______________________

I grew a beard and started to look like a Major League relief pitcher.

104 posted on 12/17/2018 5:31:02 AM PST by a little elbow grease (Duct tape and cable ties have more worth than pussy hats and resistance.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

LOL, that looks like the guy in the movie “Road Trip”!

(the one who wanted to feed the rat to the guy’s python while he was gone)


105 posted on 12/17/2018 5:31:17 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I have one of those beard trimmers and just cut it back to number 4. It makes it about 3/8” long. Any shorter and my wife complains.


106 posted on 12/17/2018 5:34:32 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: RoosterRedux

They seem to be a current fad this past two years. Whenever I see them I think of ISIS........


107 posted on 12/17/2018 5:34:54 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: BikerTrash
"...It never gets much longer than the bottom of my welding helmet..."

LOL! (As a non-welder, I can probably guess why!)

108 posted on 12/17/2018 5:36:01 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: rlmorel; RoosterRedux
Perhaps this is a good time/place, on the thread to talk about combovers?


109 posted on 12/17/2018 5:37:05 AM PST by Daffynition (Rudy: What are you up to today? :))
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To: Daffynition

OMG!


110 posted on 12/17/2018 5:39:39 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin; RoosterRedux; Gay State Conservative; outofsalt; DouglasKC; aMorePerfectUnion; ...

This is a long (and as such, is vulnerable to the deserved “TL-DNR” category) but I know a lot of guys (and some women) are tuned into the concept of what men have to do to be presentable with their facial hair. Women are sometimes curious about it, and guys, well, if they haven’t walked in my shoes, they have probably tried them on.

I have always tried to be squared away, well groomed and cleaned for my work, but I had to have constant stubble for years. I would have much rather been clean shaven, but it was a big issue for me.

I have an issue with facial hair, it is curly, and it grows back into the skin causing raised bumps and infected follicles. Black men have the issue to a greater degree than white men do, it is fairly common and many black men have scars from it.

I first discovered the issue when I joined the Navy, and they teach you to to shave in four different directions. For the next four years, my face was a mess, really unsightly, but...the Navy doesn’t care. You gotta shave. I even had a barber repulsed by the sores ask me if I was doing anything about them. I didn’t understand the issue, and tried EVERYTHING but nothing worked. I have tried all varieties of razors from an old unit from the 1930’s that came in a nice chrome “case” with a built in strop (only tried that once) to safety razors, to all varieties of multiblade razors. I have purchased and tried at least four high end electric razors, but my hair was too thick and curly, they didn’t work.

Worst of all was a multi-year phase with facial depilatories made especially for men. It was a powder, and I had a special cup and straight metal spatula (a little sharper than a butter knife) and I would pry the top off the can, measure out some powder into the cup, add water and stir it to make a paste. It stunk to high heaven. If you ever lived with a woman who used a gentle depilatory on their legs (like Nair) you know the sulfur smell...but this paste was many times stronger and worse. The fine hair on a woman’s legs is nothing like the coarse, thick hair on a man’s face. That hair, to dissolve it so it could be scraped off, demanded a chemical far more powerful and malodorous to do the job.

Then, I would spackle my face with the paste, applying the paste like shaving cream. It was thick and gray, and it took practice to do it right, and even then mistakes could be made. You had to mix it correctly and leave it on for a specified amount of time.

If you didn’t make it thick enough, it not only wouldn’t stay on the face correctly, it wouldn’t dissolve the hair correctly. When you went to scrape it off (and hopefully take the hair with it) you would get swatches of beard you couldn’t scrape off. You had two choices, and only one was correct: either take a razor to the patch, or reapply focally to that area. Reapplying focally was a bad idea, but shaving would give you bumps. After a few incidents, shaving that patch was the only alternative.

Reapplying could burn your skin.

If you did it correctly and made the paste thick enough, it would be concentrated enough to do the job. But you had to time it very carefully. If you left it on for too short a time, it wouldn’t dissolve the hair enough, and when you tried to scrape if off with the spatula, you had the issue where you had to shave the patches which would cause problems with ingrown hair.

But far worse was leaving it on too long or reapplying. There were several times I got chemical burns on my face, several times because I wanted to be sure I got a good clean face , and the other times because I reapplied the paste.

In both cases, my skin burned and turned red, and once, it turned beet red. I made the timing mistake a few times until I figured out the pitfalls of mix vs time, and only made the mistake of reapplying twice.

I had purchased the facial depilatory a case at a time...it was called “SoftSheen-Carson Magic Regular Strength Shaving Powder” and when I went to look if it was still available (I had last used it about 28 years ago) it is still available, and the white can with the steel blue band on it saying “Formulated for Black Men” looks exactly the same. When I got out of the Navy, I just let my stubble grow, and only used the paste for special occasions to shave. I only threw out that old, nearly full case a few years ago when cleaning and reorganizing the closet.

But I have been able to shave as often as I want for the last 15 years or so with no problem.

How?

Well, I worked for an Indian-American woman who had been a Bird Colonel in the Army, and she was very outspoken and quite particular about things. She liked my work (I was ex-military, so I treated her like I would have treated an Army Colonel or a Navy Captain) but one day she stopped me in the hall and said “You always dress well and are squared away. Why don’t you shave? It detracts from your appearance.”

Very matter of fact, not meant as an insult, so I described the issue to her, and she, being a physician and probably used to seeing this issue in black men in the military, said simply: “Use an antibacterial liquid soap like Dial and wash your face with it before and after you shave.”

So...I tried it. Never had a major issue with it after that. It made me a little angry, all those years I struggled with it, and SOMEONE could have clued me in. But I was grateful to her for that advice.

Now, I don’t stockpile the “Magic Shaving Powder” in the white and steel blue can, I stockpile Dial Gold Antibacterial Liquid Soap in the large, golden jugs!


111 posted on 12/17/2018 5:40:31 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: rlmorel
Thx for sharing your personal struggle. Perhaps someone else here might benefit from your discovery.

And thanks for your service.

112 posted on 12/17/2018 5:46:08 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Daffynition
When I was in my mid-fifties, my hair on top got a little thin so I shaved it all off.

Loved it. Can't believe I didn't discover that years earlier.

You don't really realize how much of a hassle hair is until you get rid of it.

The only thing about a shaved head is that you have to get physically fit to wear it.

It's a choice between looking like Mr.Clean or Uncle Fester.;-)

113 posted on 12/17/2018 5:52:21 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: cuban leaf
When my beard was at 3/8", the itch was so bad I wanted to rip my face off.
114 posted on 12/17/2018 5:55:42 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Thanks...I was lucky. I never thought of it as much of a struggle except that I couldn’t really shave.

I have always liked shaving, I liked the way it felt, the act of doing it...feeling ship-shape and squared away when done. It always appealed to me.

I even went for several years using a brush with a shaving mug, which was fun from a ritualistic perspective and felt far better than cold shaving cream, but it was no answer either.

I only wish I had found out earlier!


115 posted on 12/17/2018 5:59:09 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I have the same thing now...no hair from the top of my head down to the bottom of my neck (except eyebrows)

Hahahaha...Mr. Clean or Uncle Fester, indeed!


116 posted on 12/17/2018 6:00:57 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: rlmorel
I am not saying I look like Jubal Early, but I could be one of his distant relatives.


117 posted on 12/17/2018 6:08:38 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

Do you have an early Early beard, or a late Early beard (his later one looks a lot longer!)


118 posted on 12/17/2018 6:26:03 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: rlmorel

I have done a neatly trimmed goatee (the kind with a mustache) for decades. Because I have had a bunch of eye surgeries, I feel that the facial hair distracts a bit from the fact that my eyes look a tad off. The only problem I have with it is that I have to color it. My facial hair is much grayer than the hair on my head, so I dye the goatee.


119 posted on 12/17/2018 6:34:45 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Facial hair is an interesting byproduct of being a man...it is a tiresome chore to some, a touchstone of normalcy to others, and it can have a great effect on how you look and how others perceive you.

As you could tell from my long post, my experience touches on all of those things...as it does for most guys!


120 posted on 12/17/2018 7:25:51 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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