Posted on 12/14/2018 10:00:25 PM PST by ransomnote
I didnt record it. I just barely heard it on one of the networks one night. Trump had actually already started to walk away and then some woman shouted to him and he turned and answered over his shoulder almost out of the camera view. You could see him just off to the far right of the screen.
I m just responding to someones comment that they will stop believing when trump announces its a hoax. It seemed germane, no?
Long, detailed, things I didn’t know
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/12/15/the-fisa-conundrum/
The FISA Conundrum
FTA:
The United States intelligence community, writ large, will likely never allow the structural abuse of the FISA-702 system by the Obama administration to surface. Consider it a third rail of unspoken agreement. A similar motive for the DIA to keep the Flynn file under wraps. However, before going into the complexities of the FISA conundrum, which would also envelop any Horowitz report, it is important to revisit the basics.
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A FISA-702(17) Search Result would be a search result of the FBI (counter terrorism) database or NSA database that returns an American person (702) as a result of an ABOUT (17) type data search.
EXAMPLE: Querying everything in email ABOUT: Mohammed BadGuy might return communication of an American who wrote a letter about Mohammed BadGuy or maybe he told a friend in a text to check out a media story about Mohammed BadGuy. To look at the email or text of the American, the search operator would need to ask permission of the FISA Court to see the email/text content.
[NOTE: *Exception* the search was vital to national security?. If So, the email and text could be looked at without asking permission]
The about queries are exceptionally problematic. The user can input a phone number, an ip address, a name, an email account, or virtually anything related to the identity of a person or group and receive thousands of search results to sort and filter.
November 2015 through April 2016 FISA-702(17) About Queries, returns from searches, were identified by NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers, being conducted by the intelligence community (FBI), by contractors and individuals for reasons that: were unauthorized; were directly related to U.S. persons; and had nothing to do with National Security; and were conducted by people who did not request FISA Court Approval.
Director Mike Rogers discovered FBI contractors doing FISA-702 About Searches that resulted in returns providing information on Americans. Those results were passed on to people outside government.
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CTH received a tip that Fusion GPS [either individuals (Nellie Ohr) or the company] were one of the contractors mentioned, additionally the private entity could also be inside the Fusion GPS network (think Daniel Richman). Another contractor could possibly be CrowdStrike. From all appearances there were multiple people involved.
These passed-along FISA-702 raw search results appear to be the seeds which were fertilized by Glenn Simpson, Mary Jacobs, Nellie Ohr; unmasked by Obama administration officials; and enhanced/laundered by Christopher Steele to end with a Steele Dossier returned to the FBI via Counterintelligence Agent Peter Strzok, DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr, and DOJ/FBI lawyer Lisa Page, for their insurance policy.
The DOJ and FBI then took the dossier, full circle, back to the FISA Court to gain 702 surveillance authority and approval (media says warrant), upon the Trump Campaign (October 2016), and President-Elect (after November 8th, 2016).
In October 2016, immediately after the DOJ lawyers formatted the FBI information (Steele Dossier etc.) for a valid FISC application, the head of the DOJ National Security Division, Asst. Attorney General John P Carlin, left his job. Carlins exit came as the DOJ-NSD and Admiral Rogers informed the FISC that frequent unauthorized FISA-702 searches had been conducted. Read Here.
All research indicates the intelligence information the DOJ and FBI collected via their FISA-702 queries, combined with the intelligence Fusion GPS created in their earlier use of contractor access to FISA-702(17) about queries, was the intelligence data manipulated by Nellie Ohr, and laundered by Christopher Steele for use in creating The Russian Dossier.
You mean when I challenged your comment that the IC “wouldn’t bother with the FreeQs” and you were afraid to respond?
How is it possible that you’re so enticed by Q and his followers yet at the same time criticize them so intently?
Could you put a link? I'm unsure about searching that name due to the underscores.
How is it possible that you’re so enticed by Q and his followers yet at the same time criticize them so intently?
Cindy's in charge of child trafficking at the McCain Institute...
Cause he/she/it is an NPC, its how they are programed.
NPC. Bananas..really?
That seems pretty clear, doesn’t it.
Just got link, sorry to bother.
rofl, I was not “afraid to respond”....
You people can be so unintentionally hilarious.
I have had a lot of better things to discuss lately and you offered no evidence, no real information, no sources, etc.
So you ***imagine*** that high muckety-mucks in the current or past IC officialdom are deeply concerned about FreeQs and are sending secret trolls here?
That seems extremely implausible to me, but since you are so certain I trust you can explain your evidence and reasoning.
I happen to know that I do not have the slightest contact or connection with any IC past or present and am not anyone’s troll or agent for anything.
The feverish nightmares of the FreeQs are not so interesting, but if you have any actual evidence I’d certainly be glad to know about it.
But it’s psychologically strenuous to love something while being forced to hate it at the same time.
The NPC best have some bananas and deliver em to my car while on roller-skates is all IM saying!
Youre right. We were. You are also right that overwhelming force is justified for trolls. They arent interested in getting along and must be destroyed. Ill take your advice under consideration for the future, thank you.
Mccabe doesn’t interest you because there is definitely something happening.
And that doesn’t fit your narrative where you repeatedly claim there is nothing is happening.
As far as playing games I’m done with you you lie and twist and move the goal post. All while accusing others of doing what you yourself are engaged in.
You claim that you want the same thing that we want the Clinton’s and their cronies brought to justice yet you despise and insult every one that has a positive belief that will occur. All while claiming you are being “attacked”
If your mom is truly sick you should really spend some time with her. I know when I am going to face losing my parents I certainly won’t waste their last moments hating and arguing with strangers on the internet that I claim want the same results but just believe it will actually happen. but that’s just me.
Later
I would not say I’m “enticed” so much as periodically bemused. It is a fascinating phenomenon... combination of mass delusion, cult behavior, internet trolling (trolling BY this “Q” and his rabid followers).
I do have a grand theory of who and what “Q” really is, but right now I am still collecting information.
Maybe I will write a book. Naaah, I don’t think this Q stuff is worth it....
Doesn’t live on these threads.
ROTFLMAOPIMP.
NPC doing what NPC’s do! Don’t blame he/she/it, it’s how it was programed.
You mean the IC/MSM writes dozens of articles implying great fear of Qanon,
but somehow they wouldn’t have their subordinates post here?
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