pretty damn big for a 10yr old girl...
Posted on 12/06/2018 5:17:18 AM PST by bgill
An Ohio father punished his daughter by making her walk five miles to school in 36 degrees after she was thrown off the bus for bullying. Matt Cox of Swanton said in a Facebook post that his 10-year-old daughter was suspended from the school bus last Friday. This was the second time that she had gotten into trouble for bullying. The young girl told her father that he would have to drive her to school for an entire week.
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well you at least want them to be able to call their family and 911.......
It’s appropriate to make sacrifices for the good of your children, especially if it will promote character development. It’s in the job description. If I could go back, and do some parenting differently, it would certainly benefit MY children’s lives.
If course.
OF course. NOT if course. Sigh.
It is amazing past generations did better without this.
As long as she is properly dressed, and the area is safe, then how is this different than how many children - even under 10-year-olds - walked to school in colder climates than 36f before there were school buses? Except they did not have a parent slowly following them as the father did here.
But the father is now likely to have a visit from child services investigating charges of child abuse. And the bus driver who kicked her off likely will get some heat also.
And sadly, even some conservatives think such discipline is not part of building character, but is itself bullying.
Her father made her walk 5 miles to school in 35 degree weather.
I think she learned to be nasty by watching him.
Do you remember the name of the park in the Bronx you used to live near?
I drove through Bronx this past August. It was near the GW bridge. Passed through a neighborhood that had lots of vintage buildings, out door vegetable markets, and there was a very green park that went up a hill. Had I not had lots of miles to drive, would have loved to have parked and explored.
I want to tour some of the boroughs of NY, but I am a little hesitant not knowing if I might walk into a troubled neighborhood. Maybe I should take a tour. Any recommendations?
In my day, the kid would have been kicked off the bus wherever the incident occurred. Get out! Get out now. At the next stop Mrs. Woody would have the parent there call the school to let them know that she had kicked so and so off the bus and that she’d be walking the rest of the way
This would make national news these days and create a snowflake uprising.
Saw the video..he stayed right behind her all the way and it apparently ended up as a success.
Barefoot...uphill (both ways)
pretty damn big for a 10yr old girl...
Let's assume that Mr Cox's daughter isn't a princess and needs to be held accountable for her bullying. Indeed, if she's been caught twice, she likely was a bully more often than twice.
I guess in the overall scheme of things Mr Cox should be applauded. He took action. I seriously doubt having her walk to school will address her underlying pathology...a preferable approach in my home would be for the Princess to publicly apologize to her victims and be stripped of social media etc. But, again, at least Mr Cox did something.
However...parenting is one of the most important relationships on the planet, requiring inter alia trust and love and for the child to feel safe/protected. In Mr Cox's zeal to showboat effectively like an NFL wide receiver after a TD, this dope allowed every predator in America to get a lock on his address.
He also broke a cardinal rule we conservatives have regarding parenting: it does NOT take a Village. Did he post his disciplinary activities online because he's incapable of managing his daughter alone?
The internet is forever. 10 years from now this epidode will STILL be around. And I suspect that's the problem here: yea the kid is need of discipline, but Dad is either starved for attention (it is noteworthy that there doesn't seem to be a mother around) or he is a narcissist. Regardless, the message he sent to his daughter is that her safety and protection and confidentiality is secondary to his need for attention.
I moved to the Long Island burbs with my family at age 15. I avoid the city like the plague. Sorry. I have a few family members still braving the Bronx. Most have left. The park was Pelham bay park on the opposite side of the Bronx from the George.
Come to find out this 5 mile punishment was spread out over multiple days. She did not walk 5 miles in one day so we have beeb punked.
The most traditional, most old-timey and most Sears-ish way of starting and deeply-seating the "attachment parenting" mode is by extended breastfeeding. That's what makes the strong physical-based emotional bond of trust between Mom and kid. That's what everybody did in ye olde days, except for the gentry, who customarily employed outside-the-family baby-minders.
And as expected, the children the gentry were customarily snots.
In the Bible (Maccabees 2) the virtuous mother of the seven faithful sons reminds them that she carried them in her womb for 9 months, and fed them at her breast for three years. (Of course not exclusively. For the last 2 1/2 of those three years, there would be the regular toddlers-and-two's foods as well). Anyhow in Maccabees, the impact on mother-son trust is apparent.
I was not so virtuous nor so radical. But even though our "attachment" nursing was much more moderate, I will note that even years later, I could get my son's compliance with a look.
That's the one who's now a USMC Captain and harrier jet pilot.
I really am not doing this for virtue-signaling and self-advertising (I've got some far-from-ideal stories, too) >:o/
(Oh, do I ever!)
... but just to defend Dr. Sears and mother-child attachment. YMMV.
You forgot your /s/
BULLHOCKEY!!! You sound like one of the Me Tooers. HOW the father chose to punish his daughter is HIS Business and if he chose to hold her up for ridicule, HE thinks she needs it. Your pseudo analysis of him is laughable. Sounds like YOU are the narcissist and you certainly have no concept of REAL conservatism.
You sound like one of the Me Tooers.
The Me Too movement is a movement against sexual harassment and sexual assault. There wasn't any mention of carnal activity OR such harassment in their article OR my reply. Further, people in that movement generally come to the defense of the impacted women; in my commentary I said "Indeed, if she's been caught twice, she likely was a bully more often than twice...the kid is need of discipline...". Thus, your claim is rather baseless.
HOW the father chose to punish his daughter is HIS Business
The rights of a parent when it comes to the rearing of his/her child are (and should be) plenary. I never argued that the State or anyone else should intervene. But my dear FRiend...let us not forget the over-arching linchpin to this story: Mr Cox willingly and enthusiastically opened up HIS Business to the planet. All I did was provide a critique of HIS Business. As they used to say, don't play with matches if you don't want to get burned.
and if he chose to hold her up for ridicule, HE thinks she needs it.
Again, I am generally pleased that Mr Cox did something and didn't let her get away scot free. He can think all he wants about effective discipline. I think his choice of punishment won't be effective but, as noted earlier, I'm not recommending that anyone usurp his rights.
My criticism isn't so much with the punishment but with his laughably careless broadcasting of it. His "look at how tough a parent I am" selfishness vis-à-vis broadcasting it exposes his daughter and anyone else living with him to being stalked by a predator. Now, maybe Mr Cox already considered that risk and decided it was worth it...if that's the case then he's a worse parent than I thought originally.
Your pseudo analysis of him is laughable. Sounds like YOU are the narcissist and you certainly have no concept of REAL conservatism.
Wow...the ratio of wrong per word is huge right there. Let me see if I can unpack your point.
You consider it laughable that the risk of a predator stalking Mr Cox and his daughter - or him possibly losing his job or some other fallout since he made this a public matter - all outweighs his public shaming of his own flesh and blood. I encourage you to review the saga of Adam Smith, the CFO who uploaded his SJW-infused berating of a Chick-Fil-A drive-thru employee and got fired and had to go on public assistance because nobody would hire him.
I'm not sure where you find self-love in my post here or elsewhere. But the contention that every tiny little bit of one’s life should not be subject to some authoritarian’s idea about what is acceptable to the person in question, nor should it all go into some data bank that facilitates the government's oversight of your life, is the conservative contention. Thus anyone fawning over Mr Cox taking the Hillary/collectivist approach in making the entire Village the centerpiece of his child disciplining activities should re-examine their alleged conservative bona fides.
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