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To: Dr. Sivana

I have a MS in Applied Physics, and 25+ years as an engineering manager, and 12+ as an engineer.

I can’t get a job. I can’t get past the EEOC screening. A white, middle-aged male, non-disabled, not gay (yes I’ve seen/been asked this).

Found myself out of work when the Exec-C suite decided that their failures were everyone else’s fault.

I go to interview(s) and you can see the unmistakable and stunned look in their eyes of “Oh...you’re older than I thought”. It’s pretty much over at that point and the conversation descends into some oddly worded question about how I would do X.

I’m 56 and in good shape and sharp as a tack.


35 posted on 12/04/2018 6:21:07 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: Ouderkirk

Defense work might be a good option. Sure, they’re looking for veterans and people with existing security clearances — and you may not fit that profile. But in Defense work, the average age of the workers is higher than average. Not a lot of millennial hipsters are trying to build weapons. Therefore, the people who conduct the interviews are just expecting to see a bunch of older white guys come in the door. They can’t afford to turn away skilled people just because they have gray hair.


36 posted on 12/04/2018 6:31:31 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Ouderkirk
I’m 56 and in good shape and sharp as a tack.

Well, if you are applying at universities and government institutions, the EEOC thing could be a problem. Usually employers should be able to deduce your age based on your year of graduation. I have certainly tried to obscure mine. I actually got hired on the basis of a phone interview, and my wife claims I sound youthful, for what that's worth.

When my job was eliminated and the company was moved from Illinois to North Carolina, I took a substantial pay cut to take a contract position 90 miles away to pay the bills. The job wasn't great, but I was able to use it to redefine myself from IT Generalist to backup specialist, which isn't glamorous, has a low ceiling, but absolutely has to be performed. My pay picked up when I went from contract to full-time with the regional bank. Now I work for a large IT firm where I can work out of my home, and the only image anyone has of me is the one I put as my Skype/Circuit Avatar.

If you have skills in demand, there's stuff out there. It picked up NOTICEABLY after the Trump Tax Cuts.
37 posted on 12/04/2018 6:42:44 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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