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You make no sense...Nor do you support your contentions...Show me the EMP threat Russia poses? Didn’t do it. Instead you insulted me stating I don’t know history etc...

I lived “early enough” to understand the threat of USSR—over 25 years ago...There were students at my university from Soviet block countries that were under surveillance. We all knew who they were—grad students in programming, engineering, etc...Some were escorted away in dark of the night...sort of like living The Amerikans TV show...(Wish the Chinese were being watched today, but I suspect numbers are so large, no one is watching what they are stealing like Soviet block students were watched in the 80s...)

So having lived thru the 80s I am well aware of what WAS the Soviet threat. The 80s...when we had a wonderful president who defeated the Russians...President Reagan who I voted for and saw in person—So yeah, I get that there was a Soviet threat...then, but Russia today is a shadow of what was the Soviet Union.

No I did not serve, so I don’t get your special terms...which I asked you to clarify and you didn’t... “Ivan” “properly trained to do a favor for mommy.” Thanks for showing that you are erudite and special.

Crackers vs. Hackers...Unlike you, I don’t need to prove credentials...This is not a tech forum discussing coding hacking or if you must, cracking...so you want to split hairs, go ahead...

However, I actually have a degree in programming from the 1980s, plenty of coding...Assembler VAX, BASIC, COBOL, FORTRAN. Oh, and I did take a fair amount of history while completing my BS.

I said Russia is not USSR. It is not USSR superpower NOW. It was in the 1980s. Projection? Hardly you brought Russia on the thread and I don’t think anyone else did...I get that you are far more savvy and learned than me, so you go right ahead and continue to focus on Russian EMP threat and Ivan and continue to think;

an EMP “is not all that bad for civilians, either.”

As for me, well President Trump realizes the threat, and so do I.

This back-and-forth has devolved, taken far too much time with no movement in either of our positions (facts help btw), and is not adding to the debate on EMPs, so I am done. Please, no more insulting unsubstantiated posts as I am not responding...

Alright. Look here in the paper ("The Early-Time (E1) High-Altitude Electromagnetic Pulse (HEMP) and Its Impact on the U.S. Power Grid", Metatech Corporation for Oak Ridge National Laboratory).

"Then there are others that think every electronic device in the country will fail, and we will go back to the Stone Age. There are many such exaggerated scenarios; for example, it is doubtful that more than a very small fraction of vehicles will suddenly stop working..."

See? That's a nice break from the hysteria that we've been seeing in some of the comments in the thread.

"...but how long will they be able to run with gasoline supply disruptions from possible electric power grid problems?"

And that would keep the leftist mobs in the cities out of trouble long enough for us to get them situated.

"Many perceptions of E1 HEMP effects, and the feeling that nothing can be done about E1 HEMP vulnerabilities, are also erroneous. Besides accounting for the unlikely chance of a HEMP event, efforts to protect against E1 HEMP effects also tend to have other benefits."

Businesses and bureaucrats are working on that. We, as individuals and families, should be preparing ourselves instead of promoting hysteria. There's no sense in worrying about it otherwise.

"As for me, well President Trump realizes the threat, and so do I."

Well then, we shouldn't even be arguing. Never mind. ;-)

More seriously, EMP effects would come with nuclear exchanges mostly designed to destroy infrastructure, equipment and potential conscripts with air bursts (not much fallout), although there would be a few ground bursts in particular areas (much fallout).

And nuclear exchanges would be only the beginning of the greatest war. In the USA alone, there would probably be roughly 50 million men fit enough to begin training after nuclear strikes. In other NATO countries, there would be many more.