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Einstein's Theory of General Relativity Just Survived a Massive Crash in Outer Space
LiveScience.com ^ | Nov 29, 2018 | Rafi Letzter, Staff Writer

Posted on 11/29/2018 11:07:34 AM PST by ETL

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To: Larry Lucido

The fewer the better.


21 posted on 11/29/2018 3:27:21 PM PST by equaviator
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To: faithhopecharity

The scientific establishment is so hopelessly devoted to the Theory of Gravity that they now believe the universe has 20x the amount of observable matter, for the sole and exclusive reason that that is what is required to make the theory match other observations.

It’s beyond absurd - it’s religious fanaticism. The tolerance of mathematical nonsense about nonexistent dimensions is proof of how far they are willing to go to preserve the shine on the Einstein idol.


22 posted on 11/29/2018 4:24:07 PM PST by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 2)
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To: ETL

> Some people here seem to treat all sciences as though they were “Gore-Bull Warming” nonsense.

Others seem to inexplicably assume scientific institutions are not corrupt and politically-motivated even though they demonstrably are.

The claim of “gravity waves” being discovered is as unscientific as they come. One experiment, one set of equipment, no verification, and just for good measure the ability to conduct a fraud was openly built into the equipment.

Scientific progress is not at all helped by a lack of skepticism.


23 posted on 11/29/2018 4:26:33 PM PST by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 2)
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To: thoughtomator

first off, “dark matter”(while not fully understood) is measurable (by the rotation of visible matter in galaxies)...
either “dark matter” exists or something totally unknown is causing an effect just like what “dark matter” would cause

so it all seems to boil down to whether Einstein’s equation is correct as written (dark matter exists), or whether it may need an added term (as Einstein himself thought, albeit for a somewhat different reason).
Einstein would have no difficulty with either result.
Right now, most scientists seem to strongly favor the “dark matter” since they can measure a large impact...that “dark matter” so easily explains.........but there’s still room for further discoveries in this arena...

the theories involving extra dimensions mostly arise out of some types of quantum physics (string theories, etc.)....
so far nobody’s detected the extra dimensions, however....

there is a theory that the force of gravity is (believe it or not, relative to the other physical forces) weak.. due to some of its OOmph escaping into another dimension. However, this has not been established, just like the extra dimensions for string theories have not been established.

Certainly extra dimensions COULD exist, but I do not think many scientists take them as an article of faith. What they do is make some equations work better... but this is very indirect evidence that they actually exist
....and (I have not taken a survey but) most scientists would agree that they are THEORETICAL possibilities, not FACTS at this point.
Best,


24 posted on 11/29/2018 4:47:39 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

I have a non-standard view of science: I consider reality and any model separate things.

I therefore refer to greater or lesser accuracy, not truth or falsity, of a model.

Einstein’s model has a high degree of accuracy, and therefore of usefulness.


25 posted on 11/29/2018 5:17:55 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: ETL

It only proves the energy radiating in our direction stayed in the boundaries. Any radiation outside that boundary could very well have continued to travel independently of our dimensions. Who is to say the actual mass was in fact larger but not detectably by those of us bound by the three dimensions?


26 posted on 11/29/2018 5:25:52 PM PST by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong)
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To: YogicCowboy

indeed Einstein’s model has proven remarkably accurate and useful

i think its amazing given how little was known about the universe then


27 posted on 11/29/2018 5:40:13 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

They’re not measuring anything... they are literally saying this is where matter would have to be for the theory of gravity to be correct as-is, manufacturing it as “dark matter” to make the equations work in defiance of observations. It’s totally circular reasoning. In a sense, “dark matter” is a measurement of how much the theory of gravity is wrong, which on large scales appears to be as much as 97%.


28 posted on 11/29/2018 11:06:50 PM PST by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 2)
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29 posted on 11/30/2018 2:58:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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30 posted on 11/30/2018 2:59:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv

Now that is funny!


31 posted on 11/30/2018 6:44:10 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: thoughtomator
It doesn’t hurt that anyone who seriously questions the theory gets drummed out of the profession.

That's actually not true. The person who finds a crack in it will get a Nobel Prize.

32 posted on 11/30/2018 8:22:14 AM PST by Paradox (Don't call them mainstream, there is nothing mainstream about the MSM.)
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To: Paradox

It is true, and denying it doesn’t make it less true.

It is so true that the scientific establishment has resorted to the absurdity of “dark matter” in order to hold onto a cherished, but failed, theory.


33 posted on 11/30/2018 9:10:31 AM PST by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 2)
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To: thoughtomator
It is true, and denying it doesn’t make it less true.

You saying its true doesnt make it so. Have you worked in academic circles or known any academic types?

34 posted on 11/30/2018 10:47:21 AM PST by Paradox (Don't call them mainstream, there is nothing mainstream about the MSM.)
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