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[DouglasKC]

The one I love is that space is supposed to be a vacuum and there is no ignition possible in a vacuum because no oxygen, therefore no thrust...

This is what I mean. You're ignorant. First space is a near vacuum..but not a perfect vacuum. But that wouldn't matter for your misunderstanding. Spaceships carry oxygen in the form of liquid oxygen or other oxiders. This causes a burning reaction in a chamber. The force is vented outside which moves the ship.

Look, it's not that hard. It's not like spaceships burn wood in an oxygen environment or gasoline. It's called "rocket fuel" for a reason...the reason is that it was designed to burn without oxygen being present in the atmosphere.

Every. Single. One. of your claims are likewise easily refuted with just a modicum of study or education.

[DouglasKC]

Are you a child? Every CHILD in the world has been seeing shapes in clouds since...well....as long as there’s been clouds. I’m surprised you didn’t try to discount a picture of the earth from space by pointing out a cloud bunny.

[Sontagged]

You didn’t answer any of my questions..

And there is no such thing as a “near” vacuum... only a real vacuum. What in the world are you talking about now?

Were Nazis recruited to work for NASA, or not?

Is NASA an Islam loving, Climate Change loving Statist institution, or not?

Has NASA ever produced a real photo of earth from space, or, by it’s own admission, NEVER done so?

What is the math for the curvature of the earth? Just give us the formula.

Has NASA lost the technology to go to the moon, or not?

Did NASA say there is a “barrier” in space now that prevents us from leaving earth atmosphere, or not?

LOL... I’ve heard the liquid oxygen in a vacuum theory before, but no one has ever proved it to be true... what in the world are you talking about now?

You cannot burn fuel in a complete vacuum, and space is a complete vacuum. There is no such thing as a half vacuum.

LOLLOLLOL

Just answer the questions. Start with why NASA felt the need to ritualisticaly write “SEX” in the fake clouds on their fake images of earth? They did it in 2012 and 2015...

http://thecoincidencetheorist.com/space/finding-sex-on-nasas-epic-earth-image-once-you-see-it-you-wont-unsee-it/

[Sontagged]

Is your IQ 50? NASA wrote “SEX” in their fake clouds on their fake images of earth twice. (At least). 2012 and 2015

Where have you been that you didn’t know this?

[DouglasKC]

Did NASA say there is a “barrier” in space now that prevents us from leaving earth atmosphere, or not?

Nope.

What is the math for the curvature of the earth? Just give us the formula.

I'll give you a whole spreadsheet.

https://www.smokescreendesign.com/curvature-of-the-earth.html

Has NASA lost the technology to go to the moon, or not?

Nope.

As far as your nazi claims are you talking about rocket scientists who worked on German rocket projects in WWII..like Werner Von Braun?

[DouglasKC]

Is your IQ 50? NASA wrote “SEX” in their fake clouds on their fake images of earth twice. (At least). 2012 and 2015 Where have you been that you didn’t know this?

Apparently NOT looking at flat earth youtube videos all day long.

[apostoli]

“I believe the scientific term is ‘oblate-spheroid’.”

That is the correct geodesic terminology.

[Sontagged]

I'm sorry... are you in high school, where they don't teach you things about the Nazis who were recruited to work for NASA?

Nope, caught you pimping for NASA's lies again.

NASA trying to fake you out... how did this guy keep from laughing while explaining such Orwellian doublethink?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDBBUwdyz4I

And it's obvious why you didn't want to give the simple formula for the curve of the earth... because the gig would be up for occultic Nazis and their "sacred geometry" of Anti Christ...

"Speed of the globe’s orbit: 66.600 mph"

"Curvature of the earth in one mile squared: 666 ft"

"The earth is on a 66.6 tilt."

"Earth's axis of rotation and its plane of orbit around the Sun: 66.6 degree"

"The polar circles are located near the poles of the Earth, at 66.6° N and S latitude."

"Distance to the nearest galaxy is 11.7 million light-years.." 11+7=18 (6+6+6=18)

"The nearest solar system (star Gliese 876) is 15.3 light years away..." 15+3=18 (6+6+6=18)

"There are 1800 confirmed new worlds outside of our Solar System." (6+6+6=18)

"Pluto has 18% the mass of our Moon." (6+6+6=18)

"Pluto's moon 'Charon' is nearly 1/8 the mass of Pluto." (6+6+6=18)

"The newest planet discovered 2016 (Proxima b) is 4.22 light-years away". 4-22=18 (6+6+6=18)

"The Solar System is traveling at an average speed of 828,000 km/h" 8+2+8=18 (6+6+6=18)

"The Sun was formed from the solar nebula about 4.59 billion years ago." 4+5+9=18 (6+6+6=18)

"The Earth's orbital speed around the Sun: 108,000 km/h" 10+8=18 (6+6+6=18)

"The total journey time from Earth to Mars takes between 150-300 days" 15+3=18 (6+6+6=18)

"Neptune's equatorial clouds take 18 hours to make one rotation." (6+6+6=18)

"The Moon was formed 4.6 billion years ago around some 30–50 million years after the formation of the solar system" 4+6+3+5= 18 (6+6+6=18)

"Pluto's distance changes from 7.3 billion kilometers to 4.4 billion kilometers." 7+3+4+4=18 (6+6+6=18)

"Milky Way is moving towards Centaurus at a speed of between 150 and 300 miles/sec" 15+3=18 (6+6+6=18)

NASA put out a press release last year about "uh, sorry but there is some man made barrier having something to do with global warming that is now preventing us from going to space"... LOL

As for the Van Allen Belts of dangerous radiation that are preventing us from going back to the moon, the original NASA Nazi, Werner Von Braun, explains it on his tombstone...

obviously Von Braun was converted to realizing how futile it is to try to fight the truth of the God of the Bible... The firmament is real.

Was Von Braun converted to Christ? One hopes so... but he did recognize through observation and trial and error, probably through Operation Dominic and Fishbowl... Don't bother writing me again, just do your homework.

Psalm 19:1 King James Version (KJV)

19 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

[DouglasKC]

NASA put out a press release last year about "uh, sorry but there is some man made barrier having something to do with global warming that is now preventing us from going to space"... LOL

Show me this. Give me a link to NASA's statement that they can't go into space anymore.

[Sontagged]

I already linked one of about a million links, do the research yourself.

And you haven't answered any of my questions...

“I'm sorry... are you in high school, where they don't teach you things about the Nazis who were recruited to work for NASA?

Nope, caught you pimping for NASA’s lies again.

NASA trying to fake you out... how did this guy keep from laughing while explaining such Orwellian doublethink?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDBBUwdyz4I

And it's obvious why you didn't want to give the simple formula for the curve of the earth... because the gig would be up for occultic Nazis and their “sacred geometry” of Anti Christ...

“Speed of the globe’s orbit: 66.600 mph”

“Curvature of the earth in one mile squared: 666 ft”

“The earth is on a 66.6 tilt.”

“Earth's axis of rotation and its plane of orbit around the Sun: 66.6 degree”

“The polar circles are located near the poles of the Earth, at 66.6° N and S latitude.”

“Distance to the nearest galaxy is 11.7 million light-years..” 11+7=18 (6+6+6=18)

“The nearest solar system (star Gliese 876) is 15.3 light years away...” 15+3=18 (6+6+6=18)

“There are 1800 confirmed new worlds outside of our Solar System.” (6+6+6=18)

“Pluto has 18% the mass of our Moon.” (6+6+6=18)

“Pluto's moon ‘Charon’ is nearly 1/8 the mass of Pluto.” (6+6+6=18)

“The newest planet discovered 2016 (Proxima b) is 4.22 light-years away”. 4-22=18 (6+6+6=18)

“The Solar System is traveling at an average speed of 828,000 km/h” 8+2+8=18 (6+6+6=18)

“The Sun was formed from the solar nebula about 4.59 billion years ago.” 4+5+9=18 (6+6+6=18)

“The Earth's orbital speed around the Sun: 108,000 km/h” 10+8=18 (6+6+6=18)

“The total journey time from Earth to Mars takes between 150-300 days” 15+3=18 (6+6+6=18)

“Neptune's equatorial clouds take 18 hours to make one rotation.” (6+6+6=18)

“The Moon was formed 4.6 billion years ago around some 30–50 million years after the formation of the solar system” 4+6+3+5= 18 (6+6+6=18)

“Pluto's distance changes from 7.3 billion kilometers to 4.4 billion kilometers.” 7+3+4+4=18 (6+6+6=18)

“Milky Way is moving towards Centaurus at a speed of between 150 and 300 miles/sec” 15+3=18 (6+6+6=18)

[DouglasKC]

I already linked one of about a million links, do the research yourself.

You made an (incorrect) statement that NASA said in a press conference that a barrier prevents them from going into space. I can't FIND such a statement anywhere. Did you just make it up? And it's obvious why you didn't want to give the simple formula for the curve of the earth... because the gig would be up for occultic Nazis and their “sacred geometry” of Anti Christ...

I linked to an ENTIRE spreadsheet where you could do the calculation. BUT clearly you didn't want that. Here try this:

The Earth's radius (r) is about 6371 km or 3959 miles.

This gives a circumference (c)of c = 2 * π * r = 40 030 km

We wish to find the height (h) which is the drop in curvature over the distance (d)

Using the circumference we find that 1 kilometer has the angle 360° / 40 030 km = 0.009°. The angle (a) is then a = 0.009° * distance (d)

The derived formula h = r * (1 - cos a) is accurate for any distance (d)

sacred geometry” of Anti Christ.

Lol...I just figured out why you keep posting this long list of statistics...but what's even funnier is that the first "statistic" that I looked up is wrong.

You said "“Pluto has 18% the mass of our Moon.” That's wrong. Pluto has 18% the mass of the EARTH.

Let's look at the rest:

You said: "“Speed of the globe’s orbit: 66.600 mph”. Actually the speed varies. The AVERAGE is 67000 miles per hour. That's 6 7 0 but at LEAST you concede it's a globe and I'll give you credit for at LEAST getting close.

You said:"“Curvature of the earth in one mile squared: 666 ft”. I have no idea what you're trying to do here. The drop because of the curvature over 1 mile is .67 feet. .67 feet squared is .4489. And why the heck stop at a mile??

You said "The earth is on a 66.6 tilt." You're like zero for 3. The tile of the earth is on average 23 degrees...you're not even in the same ballpark.

You said "“Distance to the nearest galaxy is 11.7 million light-years..” 11+7=18 (6+6+6=18)" . Once again you're not even close. The nearest galaxy is much much closer....the Andromeda galaxy for example is only 2.5 million light years away and there are other lesser galaxies much closer.

Here's what you're doing. You cut and pasted some statistics (which are wrong in the first place) and then manipulated these wrong statistics in ways that you get some sixes to show up to prove a whacky theory that Satan runs NASA.

It's like this:

Number of letters in "Sontagged" = 9 = 3+3+3 = 333 x 2 = 666!!!!

Seriously, your cut and paste is ridiculous. It's clear you just cut and pasted it from This whacky website without even checking if any aspect of it was true or not. Did you even both to do any research at all..or do you just blindly accept what the flat earth websites and videos pump into your mind?

[Sontagged]

Huh? You got nothing.

Those stats have been around for a long time, and I notice you avoided giving the formula for the curvature of the earth... which is the most easily observable problem for NASA-lubbers like you. Note how many times, just in the curvature math, that "666" shows up. This is only the formula for the curvature... I'm not even posting the photos taken on a flat plane that demonstrate why these numbers don't make any sense. Just noting here the 666 NASA business!

Here ya go:

Measuring the Curvature of the Earth Basic Spherical Geometry

If the earth is a globe, and is 25,000 English statute miles in circumference, the surface of all standing water must have a certain degree of convexity–every part must be an arc of a circle.

From the summit of any such arc there will exist a curvature or declination of 8 inches in the first statute mile. In the second mile the fall will be 32 inches; in the third mile, 72 inches, or 6 feet, as shown in the following diagram:

Let the distance from T to figure 1 represent 1 mile, and the fall from 1 to A, 8 inches; then the fall from 2 to B will be 32 inches, and from 3 to C, 72 inches. In every mile after the first, the curvature downwards from the point T increases as the square of the distance multiplied by 8 inches.

The rule, however, requires to be modified after the first thousand miles.

1 The following table will show at a glance the amount of curvature, in round numbers, in different distances up to 100 miles.[4]

(note how many times 666 shows up)

Statute Miles Away Math = Drop
1 1 x 1 x 8 = 8 Inches
2 2 x 2 x 8 = 32 Inches
3 3 x 3 x 8 / 12 = 6 Feet
4 4 x 4 x 8 / 12 = 10.6 Feet
5 5 x 5 x 8 / 12 = 16.6 Feet
6 6 x 6 x 8 / 12 = 24 Feet
7 7 x 7 x 8 / 12 = 32.6 Feet
8 8 x 8 x 8 / 12 = 42.6 Feet
9 9 x 9 x 8 / 12 = 54 Feet
10 10 x 10 x 8 / 12 = 66.6 Feet
20 20 x 20 x 8 / 12 = 266.6 Feet
30 30 x 30 x 8 / 12 = 600 Feet
40 40 x 40 x 8 / 12 = 1,066.6 Feet
50 50 x 50 x 8 / 12 = 1,666.6 Feet
60 60 x 60 x 8 / 12 = 2,400 Feet
70 70 x 70 x 8 / 12 = 3,266.6 Feet
80 80 x 80 x 8 / 12 = 4,266.6 Feet
90 90 x 90 x 8 / 12 = 5,400 Feet
100 100 x 100 x 8 / 12 = 6,666.6 Feet
120 120 x 120 x 8 / 12 = 9,600 Feet

LOL.

You can't explain the historic fact that Nazis were recruited by NASA in the beginning and didn't have to go through the Nuremberg Trials

You can't explain why Werner Von Braun put Psalm 19:1 on his tombstone.

You can't explain why NASA used chromakey in a studio in the famous "NASA faking space badly in 1983" video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pVm7p4nkwo You can't explain why NASA has NEVER taken an actual photograph of earth from space. And have admitted that they never have taken an actual photo of earth from space...!

You can't explain why NASA wrote the word "SEX" in their fake clouds at least twice...

http://thecoincidencetheorist.com/space/finding-sex-on-nasas-epic-earth-image-once-you-see-it-you-wont-unsee-it/

But thanks to you I have a new question for ya:

Who was on the moon filming the lunar landing?

And was that same person on the moon filming the lunar takeoff? LOL

One-second google search... here's another link to the interview that all of those articles I already linked about NASA said they no longer can go to the moon here:

"The problem is we don't have the technology to go to the moon anymore; we destroyed the technology...."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl1H1WxWTuc

Here's the one I already posted: NASA trying to fake you out... how did this guy keep from laughing while explaining such Orwellian doublethink?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDBBUwdyz4I

[Sontagged]

Thought I’d give you a crack at it, too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HQfauGJaTs

Hey since this video is being discussed, can you give specific details about what sort of color video camera, circa 1970, was left behind on the moon to take the shot of the Apollo 17 lift off from the moon?

How did they transport such a huge and heavy color camera from that era to the moon, with a tripod big enough to hold a color camera from that era?

And what company manufactured and equipped the camera it with a transmitter to use it as a remote from earth to tilt and zoom and follow the take off of the Lunar Module in real time?

You’ll take notice, that the camera panned and tilted up in real time.

No delay.

The comments are priceless, too.

Also, the camera should still be there, on the moon, correct?

I ask because of the infamous “NASA FAKING SPACE BADLY 1983” video, where a fellow FReeper helped me realize there was a matte shot or chromakey shot with the “Big Head” guy and the Shuttle... here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pVm7p4nkwo

maybe you have a better explanation of the “continuous cloud cover” on the earth in these shots?

That would be great, if you could identify the types of c.1970 color video cameras that were used on the moon. Or do you think these were film cameras on the moon that were fitted with electronic remote controls from earth, replete with transmitters?

[DouglasKC]

Thought I’d give you a crack at it, too:

Sure. I'll give you all the information you need. But here's exactly what you'll do. You won't LOOK at it. And if you do you'll automatically reject it as being part of the conspiracy. That seems to be your pattern. Reject anything that doesn't agree with you automatically.

A great youtube video called The TV Cameras Apollo Left on the Moon that SHOWS the camera, it's history and the technique used to get the shot.

Here's an article with quotes from people actually involved:

How NASA Captured the Iconic Footage of Apollo 17 Leaving the Moon

These links have full details. How would you refute them OTHER then dismiss them as part of a vast conspiracy?

[DouglasKC]

One-second google search... here's another link to the interview that all of those articles I already linked about NASA said they no longer can go to the moon here: "The problem is we don't have the technology to go to the moon anymore; we destroyed the technology...."

This is what happens when you're ignorant. OF course the technology is destroyed. It's over 50 years old. This old technology was built specifically to GO to the moon. However a new system using new technology is being developed.

You're leaving out a lot of other things that explain this point.

Look at it this way. We've LOST the technology to build 1940's era televisions. We can't do it anymore. There are components that no manufacturer makes anymore. However we CAN build televisions using modern technology. It's the same thing with going to the moon. You're butchering what they're saying. We can go to the moon. We just can't do it the EXACT same way we did it in the 60's where we used different technologies and plans that were specifically geared toward that technology. No mystery. No conspiracy. Just common sense.

[DouglasKC]

You can't explain why NASA wrote the word "SEX" in their fake clouds at least twice...

I can explain WHY you think it says "sex" and I did. If you look at enough clouds you can see ANYTHING you want. People do it ALL the time. You think it says that because someone else showed you a video and you've turned off the critical thinking part of your brain.

OH and BTW it doesn't even look like "sex" unless you write "sex" and superimpose it over a cloud formation.

[DouglasKC]

You can't explain why NASA has NEVER taken an actual photograph of earth from space. And have admitted that they never have taken an actual photo of earth from space...!

Geesh a whole smorgasbord. The reason why you have so much is that once you start calling it a conspiracy you need to discount every single thing.

The simple answer is that there are TONS of photos of the earth from space dating back from the 1960's. You just think they're all fake because you don't think we can go into space.

[DouglasKC]

I ask because of the infamous “NASA FAKING SPACE BADLY 1983” video, where a fellow FReeper helped me realize there was a matte shot or chromakey shot with the “Big Head” guy and the Shuttle... here...

Well your fellow freeper is just as wrong. It's clearly a reflection. I've already given you a myriad of reasons WHY it's a reflection all of which make a ton more sense then constructing an elaborate conspiracy that begs the silence of literally millions of people around the world.

[DouglasKC]

You can't explain why Werner Von Braun put Psalm 19:1 on his tombstone.

Nope and neither can you. But I'll bet my guess is more convincing then yours...at least to sane people.

Psa 19:1  To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows His handiwork. 

Von Braun was very religious. His faith coupled with his love of space exploration made him keenly aware of just how awesome God's creation is.

Wikipedia has a pretty good article about Von Braun. From the article:

"He was interviewed by the Assemblies of God pastor C. M. Ward, as stating, "The farther we probe into space, the greater my faith."[82] In addition, he met privately with evangelist Billy Graham and with the pacifist leader Martin Luther King Jr..[83]"

Reading his biography his motivation for putting this on his tombstone is crystal clear...he loved God, he was instrumental in developing the technology that allowed us to go into space and he was awed by God's creation. It's just that simple.

[Sontagged]

? It’s a chromakey bleed-through, not a reflection of the Big Head guy’s head!

NASA FAKING SPACE BADLY 1983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pVm7p4nkwo

If it were a reflection, the entire surface of the white plastic shuttle would show the “Big Head” guy’s face...

But...

...it...

doesn’t..

It does not”reflect” the entire Big Head guy’s head as if it were the face of a monitor.

You can only see the bleed-through of the guy’s Head on the parts where there is a mirrored sticker or blue colored sticker on the plastic white arms of the shuttle model.

It’s not a conspiracy, its just plain old 1970’s era technology.

Here’s the link so you can check the footage and see I’m right.

Oh, and there is a later shot of the white plastic model “shuttle”’s arm where they are still experimenting with the chromakey...

... you can see the bleed-through, again, at about 5:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pVm7p4nkwo

They were setting up the shot in a video studio, and adjusting for lighting with the chromakey and somehow this video got released publicly.

No conspiracy, just old-fashioned tech fact. LOL!