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New, steeper Bayonne Bridge shut down after cars can't make it up the incline in snow
NJ Advanced Media ^ | November 15, 2018

Posted on 11/15/2018 2:34:52 PM PST by SMGFan

The Bayonne Bridge was shut down in both directions Thursday afternoon, making for a worse commute for those driving in the snow, sleet and rain.

The bridge was shutdown by Port Authority due to slippery conditions and several cars becoming stuck on the incline of the renovated bridge, which is steeper than it used to be, spokesman Joe Pentangelo said.

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To: Paladin2

I lived in a 450 sq ft apt. Husband moved in when we married. We moved to suburbs many years ago so private home, garage and driveway. Car makes no sense in city
Public transportation, uber taco walking is way to go.


101 posted on 11/15/2018 5:45:17 PM PST by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: Paladin2

Back in he 50s, Dad had 2 sets of tires, in the NW suburbs of Chicago: non-studded bias-ply, and studded. I remember several times we slid on the concrete roads during warm, sunny winter weeks. First times I heard him say “shit” and “damn”. He got rid of the studded tires and had regular snow tires ut on for the winter months; taking them off in late May.


102 posted on 11/15/2018 5:45:50 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: carriage_hill

Hard to believe that road surface temperatures would make such a difference.

I’ve driven on cold concrete with studded tires [ they obviously have to come off before June, most places] without trouble, though I rarely brake beyond 0.3 G in any conditions.

To use the >60% worn snows in the summer I pull all of the studs out.


103 posted on 11/15/2018 5:51:11 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Not road surface temperatures; it the road surfaces. Macadam is rough and studs get popped-out, while concrete is much smoother and you just slide. The sun warms both surfaces, but macadam (blacktop) is dark and absorbs more sun. On concrete you just hydroplane and slide.

Plus, both surfaces are damaged; concrete more so.

Here’s a whole set of articles on the damage studded tires do, and the hazards of driving on them on bare roads:

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=studded+tires+on+concrete&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


104 posted on 11/15/2018 6:04:00 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: SMGFan

Did Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Civil Engineering grads do the design work?


105 posted on 11/15/2018 6:22:14 PM PST by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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To: SMGFan
Similar design situation over the Houston Ship channel.....so high that 18 wheelers have a tough time gearing up and over.


106 posted on 11/15/2018 6:35:02 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: carriage_hill
Try a quick stop on studded tires on dry pavement, at 30-35mph. It’s like sliding on ice if you’re on concrete, plus the studs get ripped right out of tires if you’re on macadam.

Very true. Just like snow/ice. They probably cause as many or more accidents than they prevent. Also the tear the hell out of the roads and carve grooves in each lane, which increase hydroplaning and increased stopping distance when they fill with water.

107 posted on 11/16/2018 4:44:41 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWITR,FACBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Not a wonder why DOT banned them from production, years ago. Our family used them in the 50s, and on a warm winter day on clear roads, they were dangerous.


108 posted on 11/16/2018 4:56:31 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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