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Solution(?) to illegal immigration?
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Posted on 10/30/2018 3:25:50 PM PDT by Innovative

Illegal immigration must be stopped.

But businesses say aliens do work that US citizens/residents are not willing to do.

What about allowing legal entry for legal work as guest workers?

This would provide workers for businesses, but would not allow in gang members and evil idiots.

I think in Europe they had that for a while and it worked.

I think it might be worth to consider it here too, to keep out thousands of aliens, while helping businesses get workers.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigration
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1 posted on 10/30/2018 3:25:50 PM PDT by Innovative
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Make it a no-man’s land, far worse than the DMZ between the Koreas.

Mines in the desert, 50ft wide moat filled with alligators and mines. Make the southern border impenetrable.


2 posted on 10/30/2018 3:30:07 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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Don’t care if they come for work.

Go through the front door and receive all the protections a lawful resident or citizen receives...


3 posted on 10/30/2018 3:33:52 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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Get rid of welfare. That’ll mean less bait for illegals to come into the country, and will also mean Americans too lazy to work will either develop a work ethic or starve.


4 posted on 10/30/2018 3:37:00 PM PDT by Tell It Right (We don't lose in Baton Rogue!)
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We already have seasonal worker systems in place. Also green cards, etc..

But you don’t mop the floor until you first stop the leak.

Let’s see a system that can actually control immigration, then, and only then, begin discussing what to do with those who are here or want to be here.


5 posted on 10/30/2018 3:37:44 PM PDT by fruser1
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But businesses say aliens do work that US citizens/residents are not willing to do.

Correction: businesses hire illegals who offer to work for much less money than citizens want. Take away the illegals, or impose sufficiently heavy fines for hiring illegals, and businesses will raise their wages to hire Americans.

6 posted on 10/30/2018 3:38:08 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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We just need to decide what we want, a welfare state? Or open borders? You can’t have both.


7 posted on 10/30/2018 3:39:01 PM PDT by umgud
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1970s Germany. “We need Turks to do the jobs Germans won’t do.” Didn’t work out so well for the Germans, did it?


8 posted on 10/30/2018 3:40:51 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Need to take a few more steps:
1) Make them leave their families behind, they come alone, and if caught with family, they’re deported.
2) Either prohibit women of child-bearing age, or end anchor babies.
3) Punish the crap out of employers who don’t follow the rules
4) Limit their stints to something like 6 months here, 3 at home.
5) If all goes well with a worker after 5 or so stints here and they learn English, then consider putting them on a road to citizenship.


9 posted on 10/30/2018 3:44:25 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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We had it in the 50s, it was called “bracero”


10 posted on 10/30/2018 3:45:42 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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Get rid of welfare. That’ll mean less bait for illegals to come into the country, and will also mean Americans too lazy to work will either develop a work ethic or starve.

Absolutely.

Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.

11 posted on 10/30/2018 3:45:48 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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It seems to me that the barbarians destroyed Rome.

Demonictats want illegals to populate some states like Kalifornica so they can get extra representatives in the house and increase the power of the swamp. Fighting the swamp and sanctuary cities reduces the power of the plan.

12 posted on 10/30/2018 3:45:53 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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No! Much simpler. Require eVerify and let American companies adjust their wage offerings to market prices. There are no jobs in American that would go lacking if the right wage and benefits were offered. Companies seeking cheap foreign labor, legal or otherwise, are simply trying to undercut and not use Americans.


13 posted on 10/30/2018 3:48:47 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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I wish Trump would tell his crowds how the illegals get benefits through the government. The Dems always tell us that they do not get govt benefits. They get them ALL through the child. That would tick off people. It should help the Red Wave.


14 posted on 10/30/2018 3:49:33 PM PDT by Singermom
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We just need to decide what we want, a welfare state? Or open borders?

WE?

I vote for NEITHER.

15 posted on 10/30/2018 3:53:12 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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The problem with guest workers is that they are almost always given permission to stay and bring in relatives based on the same labor need reasoning that got them guest worker status. For example, the large Muslim settlements in the industrial zones of France, Germany, and Belgium began as guest worker housing.

How to cope with labor shortages then? Higher pay, apprentice and training programs, and mechanization. Coping with labor shortages in that manner in the 50s and 60s raised US wages, made knuckleheads in high school into skilled blue collar workers, and helped spur US industrial development via the demand for work-related tools, equipment, and industrial machinery.

In an era of extraordinary advances in robotics and artificial intelligence, it is hard to imagine that labor productivity cannot be raised dramatically. All things considered, it is better to have 3CPO as a work colleague instead of a guest worker.

16 posted on 10/30/2018 3:56:27 PM PDT by Rockingham
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Me too


17 posted on 10/30/2018 3:56:28 PM PDT by umgud
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The USA is a far better place without any Illegals.

All this business stuff is Bull Roar!

Get Rid of all Illegals ….. NOW!


18 posted on 10/30/2018 4:07:26 PM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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President Trump has said he wants extreme vetting of potential immigrants done through an interview with paperwork to back up the immigrant’s claims.

Properly implemented with tough penalties, this could end the problem.


19 posted on 10/30/2018 4:20:33 PM PDT by upchuck (Definition of a Republican registered to vote but doesn't on Nov 6: A DEMOCRAT!)
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“businesses say aliens do work that US citizens/residents are not willing to do”

It’s now rare to see white people doing construction work in my area.

Repair people like plumbers are still almost all white.

pools - Hispanics

concrete - Hispanics

What exactly are white people supposed to do other than doctoring, lawyering and nursing?


20 posted on 10/30/2018 4:23:36 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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