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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/10/30/president-trump-considering-immigration-executive-order-removing-birthright-citizenship-anchor-babies/#comments

Darrell W. says:
October 30, 2018 at 3:05 pm

President Trump is correct. The author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment would agree with him.

The citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment was written specifically to grant U.S. citizenship to ex-slaves and their children who live on American soil. It was written for no one else. The Native Americans were not even granted U.S. citizenship under this amendment.

Below is what Senator Jacob Howard, the author of the citizenship clause had to say about it:

(This is taken from a ‘National Review’ article dated August 19, 2015.)

“Indeed, during debate over the amendment, Senator Jacob Howard, the author of the citizenship clause, attempted to assure skeptical colleagues that the language was not intended to make Indians citizens of the United States. Indians, Howard conceded, were born within the nation’s geographical limits, but he steadfastly maintained that they were not subject to its jurisdiction because they owed allegiance to their tribes and not to the U.S. Senator Lyman Trumbull, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, supported this view, arguing that “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” meant “not owing allegiance to anybody else and being subject to the complete jurisdiction of the United States.”

Jurisdiction understood as allegiance, Senator Howard explained, excludes not only Indians but “persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers.”* Thus, “subject to the jurisdiction” does not simply mean, as is commonly thought today, subject to American laws or courts. It means owing exclusive political allegiance to the U.S.”


299 posted on 10/30/2018 12:13:19 PM PDT by mairdie
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To: mairdie

:: excludes not only Indians but “persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers. ::

And, to this day, such as ambassadors and foreign ministers cannot be arrested for crimes they might commit on US soil, only physically removed from the US and sent home.

NYC loses MILLIONS of dollars from unpaid parking tickets.


302 posted on 10/30/2018 12:17:37 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: mairdie

Sundance has a new thread on the topic. And the panic is starting to be heard.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/10/30/president-trump-considering-immigration-executive-order-removing-birthright-citizenship-anchor-babies/#comments

And look at who is coming out against it. So called pastors. This was one of the first signs of opposition besides the UNIparty folks. I guarantee you that any pastor that opposes this is a 501c3 church.

Checking in w/faith leaders on #BirthrightCitizenship – @salgueros says “As a Pentecostal leader part of global Pentecostalism I am deeply concerned on how attempts to change #BirthrightCitizenship will send a painful message of nativism to my brothers & sisters around the world”

— Heather Sells (@SellsHeather) October 30, 2018


307 posted on 10/30/2018 12:21:16 PM PDT by mairdie
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To: mairdie
(This is taken from a ‘National Review’ article dated August 19, 2015.)

I never knew that. Thanks for posting.

310 posted on 10/30/2018 12:25:47 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: mairdie

Special counsel Robert Mueller accuses opponents of offering women money to make ‘false claims’ about him

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/30/mueller-accuses-opponents-of-offering-money-to-make-false-claims-about-him.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar


318 posted on 10/30/2018 12:30:13 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: mairdie

Re: your post of Conservative Treehouse article about birthright citizenship

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This explains this issue in a way that even a liberal democrat could understand, but they only deal in fiction, hate, slur and innuendo, so it would be lost on them.

I hope that this EO proposal and the Legislation proposed by my new boyfriend Lindsey Graham comes to fruition. It is our country and it is about time we have the gonads to do what is right for the country.

Go POTUS! Go Lindsey G!

Take our country back.


476 posted on 10/30/2018 6:21:50 PM PDT by TheTexasMom (Q is my homie)
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