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In the spirit of the PYJAMA PATROL I would welcome my FRiends' open-minded thoughts on this recent "mail bombing" episode, and thought that a specific thread might be helpful.
1 posted on 10/25/2018 4:41:32 AM PDT by golux
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2 posted on 10/25/2018 4:41:47 AM PDT by golux
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If a couple of these bombs had gone off - or even one - I would not immediately go to false flag. But since none of them have, the logical conclusion here is that this is a leftist, or leftist group, doing this. And it IS there MO. The stories are legion - putting up a noose and saying racists did it. Painting the n word on your own building and saying racists did it. Destroying a bumper sticker on your own car and saying conservatives did it, etc.

This smacks of the left.


3 posted on 10/25/2018 4:44:16 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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If you were doing a false flag domestic terrorist operation just before an election for maxiumum effect (without actually killing one of your own, so not THAT ‘maxiumum’) what would you do?

Bombs to as many on the enemy’s enemy, not just one so it looks like a random one-off

Make it late before the election for largest possible media furvor and largest political impact

Make it late before the election a so that evidence and a suspect are not out yet poking holes and adding question to motive

Don’t actually hurt or kill your side, because well, your trying to win elections, not kill your representatives


4 posted on 10/25/2018 4:47:13 AM PDT by z3n
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I don’t see a serious bomb maker going 0-9.

It wouldn’t surprise me if one of the Antifa types thought they could outsmart everyone with fake bombs.

But I believe we have to wait for the facts to unfold. It shouldn’t take law enforcement long to find out who sent these — nine so far. This should be easy for them.


6 posted on 10/25/2018 4:50:45 AM PDT by boycott
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You can be sure that all the investigators in this bomb matter are asking "cui bono" (who benefits)?

That points the finger right back at the Democrats.

Given that no bombs have gone off and (it is said) were not designed to go off, it can be concluded that their purpose was to be useful for the liberal media and its lackeys, the Democrats.

The real bottom line here is that, since the midterms are still 2 weeks away, this matter will be a distant memory on election day.

7 posted on 10/25/2018 4:51:34 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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The fake bomb gambit is totally a false flag operation. The objective is to take control of the media narrative, smear the Donald and negate his “jobs not mobs” slogan that was scoring direct hits.

I bet some left wing professor with connections to Antifa dreamed this up. A bonus would be if Bill Ayers is the culprit. He is a big fan of terrorist bombings.


8 posted on 10/25/2018 4:51:41 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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a. We do not know who did this.

b. The FBI is not, however, going to start figuring this out by looking at “Democrats” or at “Republicans”. They’re going to examine physical forensic evidence and try to figure it out that way.

c. I suggest we all wait until they have done that before we follow our biases into a dumb place.


10 posted on 10/25/2018 4:53:43 AM PDT by babble-on
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Brett Kimberlin


11 posted on 10/25/2018 4:57:02 AM PDT by struggle
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Answer this, and you have you will know.
13 posted on 10/25/2018 5:00:28 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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Dismissing things immediate as False Flag is dangerous and often wrong. Like crying wolf. If False Flag, show proof! Otherwise, wait until there is.

Regarding the bombing, lots of kneejerk responses yesterday to what are obviously hoaxes. First, the media took lots of pictures, they obviously were not afraid. And the Soros one. The guy that received it, reportedly picked it up, walked it out to the trees, then called police. He, too, knew it was fake.

Everyone saw an opportunity, whether false flag or otherwise, to capitalize on their TDS hate of Trump. They should be embarrassed this morning.

And make no mistake, whoever sent these fake bombs needs to be found. Next time they might not be so fake.

14 posted on 10/25/2018 5:01:24 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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Not too long ago, there was a false flag incident at the Air Force Academy prep school. Someone left anti black, racist message(s) on a message board. It didn’t take long, for them to figure out it was not a white guy who did it. Surprise, surprise, surprise. Not surprised. 👎
16 posted on 10/25/2018 5:02:38 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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“Everything about socialism is sham and affectation.” - 23.11; Ch23 Evil; Economic Harmonies; Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850)


19 posted on 10/25/2018 5:04:28 AM PDT by PGalt
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Thoughts? I don’t know. It’s a distraction from the elections, though.


25 posted on 10/25/2018 5:10:52 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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When an ex-law enforcement guy told Fox & Friends this morning that he thought this was an attempt to smear President Trump and the Right, they shut him up. The Left is enthusiastically blaming President Trump for this fiasco, which looks like a planned attack on him, but no one is supposed to think it was planned that way.


26 posted on 10/25/2018 5:12:42 AM PDT by txrefugee
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Reasons I believe this is a false flag:

Supporting thoughts:

While this could be someone just wanting to scare the targeted leftists without actually hurting anyone it is not all that effective as a scare tactic if none of them go off. A "real" bomber, even one who didn't want anyone to get hurt just make a statement, would have ensured a couple went off (even in un-populated areas) in order to increase the effectiveness.

Apparently these packages have all the textbook signs of bombs or dangerous packages: incorrect postage, incorrect addresses, unexpected delivery, etc. Anyone who has worked in government, contractors, or even just large commercial businesses in the last couple of decades has almost certainly gone through safety/security training on active shooter incidents, spotting bombs or dangerous packages, etc. A "real" bomber would have known not tee his/her/their packages up to be so obviously "dangerous."

Apparently someone researched the clock pictured with one of the devices - it doesn't have any kind of timer/alarm function. There would be no easy or straightforward way to use it to trigger a device. There are probably hundreds of timing devices a "real" bomber could adapt easily to the task. Yet he/she/they choose one with good looks and no functionality...

This whole incident or series of "discoveries" is rather obvious, more than a little ham-handed. Now who likes to lay things out for their sheeple and tell them exactly what to think?

I've read more than one description of the devices as looking "Hollywood" or exactly like something from a movie. Hmm, probably because they are intended to have the exact same function as movie props - look scary.

So we're supposed to believe that the "far right" or "right-wing" groups have jumped immediately to this level of violence? The leftists shoot up softball practices, vandalize and assault in various ways, issue death threats, call for coups, promote invasion of our Country... All the while there's basically crickets from the right. Then suddenly there are no in-kind incidents from the right, we jump immediately to multiple bombings (attempted anyway)??? Hmm, which side is actually far closer to that level of violence on the spectrum???

If we're to believe what we're being told...within hours law enforcement was well on their way tracing these devices. Not only that, but select MSM outlets had already researched, corroborated information, and then put together well written and comprehensive story lines. Yeah, story lines, almost like they were prepared in advance, edited and reviewed... This whole thing is unfolding like an episode of NCIS or Bones or some such - maybe because it has so much in common with those productions?

27 posted on 10/25/2018 5:14:38 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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Hey the caravan op was failing big time they had to do something.So to tie up the moron vote those with an 80-90 IQ they sent bombs to all big time dems and soon will expose the bad guy who will be an ignorant hick from somewhere south or an ex whack job out of the nut house who will confess to hating dems.Gets the caravan story off the front pages and secures the moron vote.


29 posted on 10/25/2018 5:16:27 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga USA supports Trump.)
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Not only the bombs but the cursing at pelosi are both from dim-0s, IMO.


30 posted on 10/25/2018 5:17:32 AM PDT by weezel
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If it WASN’T a false flag, then how did the “bomb” sender get the closely guarded home addresses of the Clintons, Obamas, Soros, etc?

That isn’t necessarily info anyone outside of .gov agencies can easily get.

Definitely a key indicator that this was not just some random person on the left or the right, but someone with significant inside help if not outright sponsorship..and who, exactly would benefit? Dems, to counter the “jobs not mobs” that has been so effective in drawing the contrast between the left and right for the upcoming midterms.


33 posted on 10/25/2018 5:18:28 AM PDT by jstolzen
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So.......

Packages didn't appear to be mailed through a USPS facility, but had insufficient uncancelled postage, leading one to believe they were hand delivered. All packages contain similar devices, with similarly printed addresses, return addresses, etc.

Nearly simultaneously delivered to New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, Chappaqua, Miami, and Delaware.

Nah, not a false flag opp. Couldn't be.

34 posted on 10/25/2018 5:19:27 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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They’ll find out who did it soon enough and we’ll know then.


37 posted on 10/25/2018 5:21:19 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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