“fired under orders a confederate officer. Doesn’t matter who pulled the lanyards.”
Tell you what doesn’t matter: the truth, to you. The Confederacy did not yet exist at that time. Therefore, it was not Confederate artillery, Confederate powder, Confederate shot, or a Confederate officer.
What there was, was an act of war by Lincoln.
“My great-grandparents were there”. Sort like Elizabeth Warren being told she was of native American descent, got it.”
That’s your retort? Calling me a liar? All you “got” is “na-na-na-na boo-boo?”
Pathetic.
Substitute South Carolina for Confederate, that fixes that problem. An unarmed ship is not a provocation in international law. Lincoln was not President at the time. President Buchanan ordered Star of the West to resupply Fort Sumter.
Based on DNA Elizabeth Warren didn’t lie either. Not calling you a liar. Oral family traditions are sometimes distorted over several generations of retelling and make for suspect history.
The Confederacy officially formed on February 4, 1861.
Prior to that date secessionists operating in concert had seized 19 Federal forts, 5 arsenals, 5 US ships and 1 mint across seven states.
After February 4 but before Fort Sumter, Confederates operating in concert seized another 15 Federal forts, 3 arsenals and two US ships, for a total of 50.
After Fort Sumter but before formally declaring war on the United States, May 6, 1861, Confederates seized 11 more forts, 4 more arsenals, 2 more ships and 2 more mints.
Roughly half of all Federal properties seized by secessionists & Confederates were seized before that particular state declared secession.
None of these will dsc admit are "acts of war", and yet somehow Lincoln's resupply mission to Fort Sumter was?
Go figure.
dsc: "That’s your retort?
Calling me a liar?
All you “got” is “na-na-na-na boo-boo?”
Pathetic."
It does indeed seem that Elizabeth Warren might have a tiny smidgen of Native American blood, so her own family's tall tale is not necessarily 100% false.
And I'd say the same of any exaggerated tales of Sherman's "atrocities" -- no doubt there's some truth in them, but the question is: how much?
To truly say "how much" we have to research physical evidence and documents and, sadly for Lost Causers, there are none which support any of their wildest exaggerations.