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LIberal education revisited, for your discussion, amusement, and enlightenment.
1 posted on 09/11/2018 7:24:31 PM PDT by proxy_user
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I used to pass by there and would stop for Shakespeare plays in their outdoor theatre on Sunday evenings. I recall a lot of grout oriented poetry on the walls of the bathroom there.


2 posted on 09/11/2018 7:28:09 PM PDT by posterchild (anti-science: thinking a fetus is distinct from a tumor and sex is determined by chromosomes)
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Hopefully St Augustine and St Thomas Aquinas are part of the liturature mix.


3 posted on 09/11/2018 7:29:15 PM PDT by posterchild (anti-science: thinking a fetus is distinct from a tumor and sex is determined by chromosomes)
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Our founding fathers just read the books.


4 posted on 09/11/2018 7:29:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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For those of us who will not besmudge our computer screens with the New Yuk Slimes, what is the name of this institute of higher learning.


5 posted on 09/11/2018 7:35:41 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting.


6 posted on 09/11/2018 7:36:41 PM PDT by onedoug
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The NYT writer just had to include, “The degree to which “the program” omits the intellectual contributions of women and people of color troubles me.”

Not to worry, most 8th graders today probably know as much or more about Harriet Tubman as they do about George Washington. Most probably could tell you nothing about James Madison or Alexander Hamilton.


7 posted on 09/11/2018 7:37:48 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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Had a friend who went there, thought he was going to change the world. He had a great party as the going away present, spoke heroically and left. After a year he bailed, went back to a major college and wanted to make the football team. Pfff......


11 posted on 09/11/2018 7:48:11 PM PDT by Fungi
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This college is a leftist ‘s dream.


13 posted on 09/11/2018 8:07:04 PM PDT by bort
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18 posted on 09/11/2018 8:47:59 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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I like it. If you had to wear a toga to philosophy class, that would really be the deal.


19 posted on 09/11/2018 8:50:51 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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Thanks for posting this. But, how in the world did it get published in the NYT? LOL...

In a different way I believe, a classical liberal education such as at St. Johns is every bit a brain twister as a STEM pathway. STEM focuses on some combination of 1) rote memorization of mass amounts detail then recalling later to recombine into new or novel ways or 2) works within the laws and techniques of mathematics to some end. To some large degree, I describe this as learning what to think.

From a different direction, I believe the classical education teaches how to think. See how this is different? What to think versus how to think. It took me 20 odd years of professional STEM experience albet with a non-traditional breadth of exposures to many situations to expand to how to think.

24 posted on 09/11/2018 9:43:45 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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This is what university will return to after the massive debt-fed education-industrial-political complex finally deflates.


28 posted on 09/11/2018 10:14:15 PM PDT by PGR88
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Would this curriculum at St. John's be perhaps an offshoot of the Great Books program developed at the University of Chicago when Robert Hutchins was president or chancellor? That was a long time ago, before I was born, but I heard a lot about it from various friends and family when looking into various colleges in the '60s.

Hutchins made the news quite often from his perch in his think tank in Santa Barbara, populated with leftists who were intent on exposing conservatives as neo-fascists. Goldwater and Reagan were two of their favorite targets in op-eds dutifully published by editors of like mind such as Tom Braden of the Oceanside Blade-Tribune. (Braden, an ex-CIA operative who was for a time Pat Buchanan's sparring partner on CNN's Firing Line program, was the prototypical liberal newspaper publisher who would echo whatever tripe was put out by leftist think tanks.)

Not saying that studying the classics is another step closer to the totalitarian abyss, but I'm curious as to why there appears to be so much interest among those on the academic left.

Certain founders of this great nation read Aristotle, St. Thomas Aquinas and European history (some in the original Latin and Greek) and were for the most part defenders of man's natural rights and wary of an all-powerful central government. Until recently, it was normal for Republican candidates for office to occasionally refer in their campaigns to the signers of the Declaration of Independence and/or the Constitution as models they wished to follow in their political careers.

So where do current candidates go these days to get this kind of education? St. John's? Or are there more that offer this kind of study?

29 posted on 09/11/2018 10:24:57 PM PDT by logician2u
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You’re not here for banh mi.

What the hell is banh mi?

35 posted on 09/12/2018 5:50:19 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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